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Abandoned The Inner Eye of Harry Potter by jbern - T

Discussion in 'Humor' started by luckykas, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Kensington

    Kensington Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    Meh, this story simply doesn't do much for me at all.

    On one hand, the grammar and plotting seems pretty damn solid to me. On the other hand, I simply am not enjoying reading the story. I think the only part I've truly enjoyed is the "Save the Unicorn Save the World" line.

    3/5.

    It's decent, but it's not quite my cup of tea.
     
  2. KrzaQ

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    Second chapter follows the style of first. It's light and humorous. Maybe I wasn't laughing out loud but it kept smile on my face at all times.

    And I loved the line about Myrtle and the Dark Lord.
     
  3. Zombie

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    I didn't know that TLIL was humor?

    That, and I'm of the opinion, along with many others, that JBern's Luna, no matter how much he likes to try and portray as crazy, is just not in character.

    Mainly because in canon, Luna isn't crazy, she's eccentric. That, and saying that Harry is anything like Luna in this is just fucking lip service. I'd like for a few of the people to remove their lips from JBern's dick, and realize that this is just a ploy, and not a good one.

    Good Examples of Luna done well is very limited: Mainly because people try change her from what she is in canon, an eccentric non-entity that is hardly mentioned; into some kinda backwards social butterfly.

    Luna was butchard in the Turn Me Loose stories by JBern, and I'm sure that point has been hammered over 9000 times, so its not really worth mentioning.

    I would have to say that the only Luna I've ever seen done well is Tehan's Contemplating Clouds, and he can't even continue that because of how hard it is to write Luna, and have her remain Luna.

    I'm not looking forward to more, and I think that now since JBern's a big Published Author, you start following his ripoffs--Er... I mean, Original Works. ;)

    I kinda think its hilarious that Jbern is using his FF as a PR tool. I mean, honestly, I think thats the only reason he wrote this story.

    tl;dr: I have a legitimate gripe that I haven't really voiced, other than on IRC, and I think its about time that stories start being rated for what they're actually worth, and not because they're written by someone you like.

    I give this story a 1/5
     
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  4. Blaise

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    LOL whut?

    I don't get the whole "rating stories bc you like the author" deal. I don't know any author enough to "like them; I don't think any of the people who like JBern's stories gush over them because they like him - no one knows shit about him except that he's some old guy trying to be a writer.
     
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  5. Zombie

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    JB: Meaning that I don't like it when people rate a story because they're all OMG ITS JBERN, and they rate him high because of the quality of his past stories. I don't know JBern either, why the fuck would I say something pertaining to knowing him?

    Also, I would disagree about what's known about JBern, Bio made most of his personal info pretty available. D:
     
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  6. darklordmike

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    LOL--I'm not sure what got your panties in a twist, Zombie, but I do appreciate you implying that my lips are on jbern's dick. Your post just reeks of butt hurt.

    I don't know jbern personally, but I happen to like his stories. But like you, I don't really like Luna's portrayal in Bungle. I rated this particular story highly because I think it's well-conceived and fun, and the Luna here is much closer to canon than in in Bungle (which you'd know if you read it).

    You're doing the exact same thing that you accuse others of doing. You're slamming a story because you dislike the author, rather than judging the story on its merits. It's tiresome to watch you and your little IRC clique poke jbern with a stick just 'for the lulz.' He's a popular and now published author, and he doesn't go out of his way to advertise those facts. Like any reasonable person would, he mentions his original works in the A/Ns of his fanfiction stories. Deal with it.

    See above. I didn't say that in my post, and neither have other people. You're the only person I see judging the story based on personal dislike of the author and your dislike of a single character's portrayal in a past story.
     
  7. Blaise

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    For your claim to make sense, the following would have to happen:

    1. Fangirl/boy X sees "new fic by JBern"
    2. Fangirl/boy rates story 5/5 ZOMG
    3. Fangirl/boy then proceeds to actually read the story.

    There's no way you're going to try and argue that this is what happens the majority of the time - or at all.

    Ignoring that, everyone's going to go into a new story written by a popular author with a more than a healthy dose of bias. If Shezza, Nonjon, or Rorsarch's Blot put out a new fic, would most of the positive reviews come from completely new readers, or readers already familiar with their work ? I'll bet a bank that Vash could write the sequel to Oedipus Flower, and it'll receive overwhelmingly positive reception, even if it were somehow noticeably worse than OF or had some glaringly wrong characterization. In fact, he had written a challenge piece for TGYH or somesuch, and it was terrible - yet pretty much everyone who had read OF liked it. One could argue that it was just a fun, throw-away piece I suppose, but still.

    Conversely, I (as an admitted fan of JBern's stuff) thought this story was horrible: not because of fucking Luna (and I really do not understand the fascination with this bitch in the first place), but because the main premise of the story - Divination-loving Harry - is so damned retarded that it deserves to be scrapped faster than a Harry/Draco fic.

    So yes: the only reason people vote his stories high is because they like what they are reading, not because they like the author.
     
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  8. Myst

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    I thought it was a decent read. I do agree with Blaise that the premise is kinda lame. But it did keep a smile on my face at all times and I think that is what Jbern is looking for.

    5/5
     
  9. Sesc

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    And yet you get votes like this:

    A decent read + the premise is kinda lame + I did smile = somehow, the most brilliant and outstanding thing I've read in a long while (which is what a 5/5 means).

    I do not see how that equation works, unless you add a +Jbern on the left side, which is worth about a +2.


    And that annoys the fuck out of me.


    Edit: Also, before someone gets on my case about that, I have no problem with Jbern personally. I liked Lie and gave it a 4, I read this and gave it a 2.

    And you just have to look into the thread for more examples of what I was talking --
    I guess, at least he said it.
     
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  10. Zombie

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    Don't kid yourself. I just used your post as an example as I was scanning down this train wreck of a story thread. You're one of many that would suck JBern's dick the moment he posted a new chapter to a story.

    Butthurt? Please, I'm the least butthurt person in the world. I couldn't give a shit really- I'm just humoring JBern, and appealing to my own interest by posting in this thread.

    I don't just dislike the author, I dislike his writing-- I have read his stories, and unlike most people that try and troll him, I can talk about it with some amount of authority just because I have read them. Don't tell me I'm being a sheep like the rest of you baaing fucks just because I'm throwing up a point that's not inline with the rest of the post in this thread.

    tl:dr: Suck my dick. I don't give a shit what you have to say, and the fact that you thought I was talking to you makes me think you're a little butthurt.

    For you to have any reason to post in this thread, the following would have to happen:

    1. You see that I’ve made a post against JBern
    2. You lurve JBern
    3. You then proceed to defend his wounded honor.

    There’s no way I’m gonna take that shit from you, nor allow you to misunderstand the point I’m trying to make by totally not seeing the bigger picture.

    Ignoring that, you can look at the TLIL thread for evidence that most people that post in that thread are only there to fellate Jbern. That’s the only reason a fan of any writer on this site joins, because they hope in the deepest recesses of their minds that their Author of choice reads their reviews and their funny little platitudes, and will throw them a bone in the shape of a new chapter, or they can in some way influence said story. I would even bank on a sequel to Vash’s Oedipus Flower being a complete flop if Vash was trying to appeal to the masses and do fanservice/lip service, and not writing the story within the best of his ability.

    Conversely, I’m an admitted JBern hater, and in this story, as well as his others JBern’s writing ability is subpar, and he has always been an aloof writer appealing to his fans. I was trying to point out that because he writes a new story, said new story will not be terrible, because said new story is a new and original idea. This story sucks, and /I/ imagine the only reason he wrote it was to push his new book that deals with such themes. I don’t care if you like JBern, and it doesn’t even matter that I dislike JBern, what does matter though, is that people have no fucking clue how to use the review system.

    Sesc pointed it out.

    Just because it made you smile, and you could almost read it, or could read it etc, does not warrant a positive rating, when the content in question is utter shit, and doesn’t even deserve to be recognized.

    I would like to think that my rating is not affected by my dislike of JBern. And that the point is to show that I gave him a 1/5 on merit of his effort in writing his story, not that I hate him. Why would I ever do that, I mean /me/ give a rating arbitrarily? :awesome
     
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  11. World

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    Obviously, your rating is entirely unaffected by your previous judgement of the author :awesome
     
  12. darklordmike

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    Yeah, I'm aware you just picked my post as an example. That's why I used the word 'imply.' I couldn't care less what you think of me; I responded to your post because it was a load of bullshit.

    LOL, right. Listen to yourself, man. You're ranting. Clearly you do care, quite a lot, about the issue of jbern's writing. And reading all of his stuff doesn't lend authority to your trolling; it just makes you seem like an idiot. So you (a) hate the author, and (b) hate all the author's works, yet you've read all 800,000 words of his stories? Why?

    And take a look at the rest of this thread. There's little to no fellating going on. I'd say it's pretty damn balanced on the whole. There's a lot of "I don't particularly care for this."

    Well, I haven't read his new book yet, but from what I can tell it's got no connection whatsoever to Harry Potter being raised by Sybill Trelawney. Does it really bother you so much that he advertises his original works to the fans of his Harry Potter stories? If it does, I can only suggest seeking psychotherapy, because you've got a serious case of penis envy, friend.
     
  13. Andro

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    I counted exactly two reviews that were dicksucking, namely Nadino's and Myst's. After him, only Trulle and Cxjenious identified themselves as Jbern fanboys, but rated the story lowly despite it. Hardly voting blindly.

    Every positive review (by which I mean four or five stars) was on the first page, with the lone exception of Myst, and did not reference Jbern's past works, except for someone wanting Lie to be updated, etc. Meaning no different from any review submitted to a story written by a new author.

    And Vash already has the first chapter of his Oedipus Flower sequel out, it's called Inremeabilis.
     
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  14. Zombie

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    Right, and I'm calling your bullshit bullshit. Stop trying to one up me. No room for two trolls in this thread, which is pretty much what this is going to evolve into if you keep going.

    LOL, right. Listen to yourself, man. You're butthurt. Clearly you do care, quite a lot about me using your post as an example. Me reading all of his stuff does indeed lend authority to my post; it also makes me a cool guy because I'm following the fad of trolling JBern, apparently. So you (a) are trying to make your self look cool because you think I'm trolling and (b) think you can one up me by throwing numbers at me and ending your paragraph in a question. Why?

    I did take a look at this thread, and ignored every post that was doing what they were supposed to be doing, and then targeted you specifically. You're giving me a lot of "LOL I'M SO COOL."

    I am about to read his new book, and had you read the synopsis on Amazon, after all this time of him pushing it in his thread and on his FF page you would realize how I would have come to the conclusion that "Inner Eye of Harry Potter" might somehow be tied into his new story Dead Eye, which features a psychic detective. A logical leap from that assumpition is that he's boosting his sales through PR work, not a grump, just an amusing observation.

    It doesn't bother me, but it obviously bothers you, considering you took the time to come back and respond to a post of mine, detailing out how butthurt I am apparently, when your post reaks of ass and fail.
    Yes, I'm aware of whats in the thread. I am also ignoring all logical posts.

    I am also aware of Vash's sequel. I was using it as an example in response to JB's post.

    Edit:
    Still don't get what you seem to think I'm butthurt about. You can't call someone butthurt and not explain what it is. Have I trolled you in the past and you're just trying to make a point?

    In a rather weak manner might I add. Your logic cannot defeat my logic when I refuse to accpet it.

    Maybe the fact that I can't understand you is because you have a dick in your mouth.
     
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  15. darklordmike

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    lol, what? I'd like to point out that you just...oh, never mind, it's like arguing with an 8-year-old with Down's Syndrome. I have no desire to continue this, so I'll just concede defeat to the butthurt Injun.
     
  16. Oneiros

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    Here is an idea, instead of sounding all butthurt why don't you spend time you would have spent complaining about jbern and invest that energy in writing a new chapter in your story?

    As for this story, it isn't great, but it isn't as horrible as Zombie tries to make it out to be. It has humor which isn't that terribly humorous, but there are a few mildly entertaining moments, and though the writing feels rushed it is still better than 99% of the fanfiction out there. I'd give a 2.5/5 rounded to 3/5. I suggest jbern sticks to his traditional story fare since this attempt at humor is lacking. I'd much prefer updates to TML, the sequel to LIE, or that H/Hr story he was talking about writing to this story.
     
  17. Oz

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    (Zombie) Should I post that?
    (Oz[Food]) Depends
    (Oz[Food]) Do you want to?
    (Zombie) Lol
    (Oz[Food]) I mean, I agree with you
    (Zombie) I don't wanna be called a troll.
    (Zombie) Its a legit argument.
    (Oz[Food]) But I wouldn't put it quite that way
    (Oz[food]) and yeah
    (Zombie) People are praising the story just because they think his other works are good.
    (Zombie) This was shit.
    (Oz[food]) They'll just say you're "One of Vash's little IRC troll buddies"

    I called it. <_<

    Attempts at humour in this fall flat, and the entire premise is just facepalm-worthy. I don't really care if this is about promoting Dead Eye or you just wanting to branch out into comedy, I think you're capable of a lot better, and I think you should stick to what you do best (namely Lie I've Lived and To Fight The Coming Darkness).
     
  18. J22

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    I find it funny how some people on this site dislike Jbern simply because he's popular with the moronic masses. Is hating pop still cool?
    Having said that this wasn't up to Jberns usual standard. Definitely not on par with Lie/TML but it was readable which is more than I can say for alot of fics - even stuff on here. 3/5
     
  19. Trooper

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    I'll just ignore the JBern love /hate going on above and just comment on the story. >_>

    This story to be honest is bland compared to his other fics. I'm still waiting for the humor to show up in the 2 chapters that have been posted. The reaction I get from this fic is something like, "Oh, he's updated the fic. Let me check it out when I've got time, maybe next week."

    While it's not the best fic I've ever read, it's quite better than most of the fics floating around. Fics, that are in fact currently in the library.

    3/5 for mild interest and minor amusement.
     
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    Okay, I am going to be the lone sensible voice in this entire thread.

    Zombie: You just did what you were talking about; see post by World. Shut up.
    Justblaise and darklordmike: You're fanboys. Admit it, sit down, shut the fuck up, and watch how a real review takes place.

    Ahem.

    I start off without a vote, like so.

    04:40 - The first paragraph: Auntie Sibyll. If there is no backstory coming soon, then this fic is shit.

    04:47 - The fic is shit.

    Where do I begin. "Auntie" Sibyll shows up out of the cold, and is a live-in caregiver. There is no explanation given, no whys or wherefores. She's just there. Now while 'foreseeing' the winner to horse races and football matches is a nice little explanation, weren't Trelawney's predictions spotty? I'll look past the fact that Dursley is not the type of person to provide charity to anyone.

    ---
    04:53 - I'll say this right now: anybody who smiled or giggled at this probably enjoys Mind of Mencia. Please allow me to point out possibly the best example of humour in this fic:
    Ha. Ha ha. Ha. I believe I told something similar to this in primary school. Third year, to be exact. Well done, Jbern, well done indeed. Very highbrow.

    ---
    04:55 - Then, there's a magical book that suddenly writes down all her predictions. Does it predict my eyes rolling?

    ---
    04:57 - Pertaining to the last two points, why doesn't Trelawney just become a superhero? 'I'll predict that Peter Pettigrew is the secret keeper.' 'I'll predict that today is the day that Voldemort will show up in Godric's Hollow.' Apparently, The Powers That Be do not like to give up the astronomically large predictions, but it'll throw a few bones to the gormless idiots out there. Sort of like Scientology.

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    05:07 - Finished reading the brainless tedium that is the second chapter.

    Luna, Jbern, may be your one almost redeeming quality. You made her 150% as weird as canon. Well done. Bullshit taken from canon, more bullshit. And then I see two words that just make me laugh.

    Colonel Sanders.
    They don't make me laugh because I think KFC, they make me laugh because I think of Spaceballs.
    At this point, you have fallen back on just enough old jokes to turn this fic from original recipe to just another lump in the grease bin.

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    A quick nod to another author, Jbern? How very darkmoore of you.

    Just in case you fanboys and girls had thought that Jbern has words just waiting to be used as names for fictional creatures, you're wrong. This author prides himself on superpowered!Harry/Ginny fics with a hint of soulbond if memory serves, a genre which I wonder if, should Jbern write one of those, you would be so generous with praise and compliment.

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    And then the almost standard advertisment in the author's note at the bottom.

    I give you a generous 2 out of 5. Not for being entertaining, and certainly not for your original writing. But if only for the fact that you're trying.

    Yes, you're very trying.

    I'd also like to point out that it took far longer to write the Great American TL;DR than it did for me to read this "story".

    EDIT:

    By the way, lads and lasses... I actually read the chapters through before giving my opinion. That's how to review. If you want to rubberstamp something, have one made just for yourselves. It should have the word 'DUHHHHH...' in bold lettering, and it is applied directly to the forehead. And before anyone laughs at this potential reference to that stuff that was advertised, no. I'm hoping for some permanent cranial damage to occur.
     
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