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Help building a computer

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by Havoc, Jun 19, 2009.

  1. Havoc

    Havoc Seventh Year

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    [FONT=&quot]My current laptop is a piece of crap that is acting as my main computer, useless as a gaming computer, and as an video/image editor[/FONT].

    I'm going to "accidentally" drop it next week.

    In preparation for the accident, and being woefully ignorant on how to build a desktop computer, I'd like to ask for some help building a something for gaming.

    I'm thinking spending around 600-700 dollars

    Currently I'm just shopping on newegg for the parts. This is what I've come up with.

    CPU and motherboard
    Memory (Getting 4GB)
    HDD
    Case
    Video Card
     
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  2. Osprey Trapper

    Osprey Trapper Second Year DLP Supporter

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    I've never built my own computer, but I would look at more than 2GB of RAM.

    Towers fine, as is hard disk. Make sure you've got enough for a decent monitor too.

    The graphics card looks fine - lots of memory to play with too.

    Good luck making it work ^.^.
     
  3. Matian

    Matian Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    I'm not exactly a wiz with computers, so if I get some technical terms wrong, don't flame me.

    Currently I'm using a laptop and it works just fine, even with newer games. Of course with very demanding games like Oblivion and Dawn of War I have to lower my settings, but overall it's a good pc.

    My specs:

    Dual core with 1.72 Ghz
    1.000 RAM
    NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
    Windows XP

    I would suggest getting a stationary instead of a laptop, although that might be a given.

    Use a Logitech laser mouse but not cordless. A cordless mouse has the tendency to stop working and is costheavy in batteries or whatever. If not Logitech, then another brand known for quality. Only the best for a gaming pc, right?

    Dual core is a must for a gaming pc imo and the higher the Ghz, the better.

    2.000 RAM should do just fine for any game you might play, but it really depends on what's going on your desktop while you're playing. Keep the activity down (close Internet Explorer and what-not) and you can get by with just 1.000. Roughly I believe the price of RAM is around 5 Ram per US dollar.

    Don't get Vista! It's the bane of all games.

    Get a good cooler and silencer for the harddisk. Those suckers get hot and fast easily and I've heard it's even worse when the pc is selfmade, but that might just be my bad memory acting up again.

    I would recommend NIVIDIA for graphics. Some like to use 2 graphic cards at the same time an while I've never tried that, I have been told it doesn't work all that well.

    If you manage get all of these things mashed together along with a nice comfortable chair and a good speakers, you should get the ultimate gaming experience.

    I hope I was of any help and I'm sure you know at least half of the stuff I just wrote, but good luck anyways.

    EDIT: Just looked at the links you've provided... You should do just fine, mate.
     
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  4. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Your choices seem to be decent. You could take an AMD Phenom II X4 940 for the same price or a little less, not quite sure how they stack up against each other, you could have a look at some benchmarks.

    250 gig is not that much, unless you have some other spare HDDs lying around. For less thann $100, you can get 1 TB, so I'd take that. Something like this if you insist on Seagate for example.

    I'm not sure about the video card, at that price it's a solid choice, but I don't know how good it really is. If you want something a bit better (like 46 to 35 fps), have a look at this. But that figure (46 to 35) is at 1680x1050 with 4xAA, so if you have a lower resolution, a 250 would suffice. If you do take a GTX 260, make sure you pick a 216 one rather than a 192. The 192 might be a bit cheaper, but the 216 has better value.


    A ram?
     
  5. Matian

    Matian Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Lol, no. It's what we call memory in Denmark. I thought it was the same in english, but it seems I was mistaken.
     
  6. Lord Ravenclaw

    Lord Ravenclaw DLP Overlord Admin DLP Supporter

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    Phenoms are terrible, ignore them. These days, Intel are so far ahead of the pack it's not even funny.

    Also, SLI is good, but it's quite a bit out of your price range at the moment if you want a decent video card. You can always get a second video card later.

    We don't call RAM "A RAM" though. We say "2gb sticks of ram for $xxx"
     
  7. DvorakQ

    DvorakQ Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Check out http://techrepo******/articles.x/16721/1

    They have a quarterly updated blog that details good deals etc for building a new computer. With your budget you should check out their "econobox" system. 502.93 cents not including shipping ;b
     
  8. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I thought/heard that the new Phenom IIs are rather good and have good value for money, as opposed to the old phenoms.
     
  9. Havoc

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    If what I have is decent and the best bang for my buck, I'll be picking it up. Thanks, everyone.
     
  10. coleam

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    I think a Phenom II instead of the Intel chip might give you a bit more bang for the buck, and I've seen some great reviews on some of the new socket AM3 ones that were just released (see: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680). I'm pretty sure the rest of your setup will still work with those, but you might want to check on compatibility.
     
  11. Zombie

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    You must have did it wrong then... Vista SP 1 worked just fine for all games I played. (Crysis, L4D, TF2, HL1/2, etc.) No issues. :3

    Also listen to Raven, Intel is a must. Even with the cost. AMD is :x

    @Havoc: Send me your laptop after you drop it. I can fix it up and give it to a friend of mine.
     
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  12. Havoc

    Havoc Seventh Year

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    Most of my family are engineers and programmers... I just may get a repaired laptop instead of a brand spankin' new desktop.>_>

    But if things go the way they should, you'll get yourself a busted laptop sans hard drive, Zombie.
     
  13. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    :3 Leave the HDD I'll do a Zero Pass after I recover your "deleted" data.

    Edit: @Osprey: 8 Gigs - All of that shit in Vista can be turned off or tuned down when you get it. I recommened anyone who has it get a copy of Tune Up Utilities '09. Great Resource. Also, Vista isn't meant to run off of 1 Gig of RAM or less. 2 Gigs is the Minimum. With Aero and that other shit stripped off, it should run decent.
     
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  14. Osprey Trapper

    Osprey Trapper Second Year DLP Supporter

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    How much RAM do you have? I've heard that with people that only have 2gb or so and try to use vista have an awful time running any games and such. Mainly because vista will use half that or maybe more just trying to run....

    ---

    To the author, best of luck with your new computer. I see you wrote your current computer is a laptop, so might I recommend getting a decent monitor too? No point having some shitty box monitor from your cupboard and wondering why your games look horrible.
     
  15. Oz

    Oz For Zombie. Moderator DLP Supporter

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    They're slightly better value at stock clock speeds, but intel processors overclock like a motherfucker. And you don't have nearly as much choice with regards to motherboards if you go the AMD route.
     
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    They aren't telling him to get icore 7, but Duo Core. Icore7 is a waste of money unless a) you have money tob urn and b) you do insane multitaskign w(browsing, listening to music, and watching a movie does NOT qualify as multitasking). Unless you are a professional whose job requires a computer with lots of processing power (programmer, graphics designer, etc) you do not need an icore7.

    Finally I also support getting intel over a,d, just not icore7
     
  18. ForsakenOne

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    Meh, i would think that the phenom 2 for around $220 which is a 3.0 ghz quad proccessor would definitely be worth the money.
     
  19. Oz

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  20. Havoc

    Havoc Seventh Year

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    So, my laptop survived its attack from a cup of water, and it still runs like a champ.

    Anyway, I've come across some funds to purchase a spankin' new desktop. My budget is 800 dollars, but it's flexible.


    CPU

    I was thinking about picking up an i5, but the Core 2 Duo should suffice, right?

    Motherboard

    Case and psu combo
    RAM
    GTX 260
    HDD

    Feedback on my choices would be appreciated, thanks.

    Edit: I'm not sure if 500W is good enough.
     
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