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HBP - A Better Movie Than Book?

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Silens Cursor, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. Murton

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    Doesn't running away from someone kinda make it pointless when the people chasing after you can just pop in front of you and instantly surround you? And any spell which takes time and has to be aimed is kinda pointless.
     
  2. Xiph0

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    I, to, will look forward to the death of this fail, sham of a DD.
     
  3. Heleor

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    Well, in all of those cases, you only really know that they can see the _effects_ of magic. The Dursleys reacted to the tail appearing, the car was a physical object, so was the aunt.

    The Dementor, in fact, it was a plot point that muggles could not see them.

    I'm wondering if a muggle could see the beam of light for an AK, for example.
     
  4. peregrine1989

    peregrine1989 Third Year

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    I am curious how this movie will go. On one hand, the book was terrible. This along with the fact that most movies based of books are worse then the book, should imply that this will be a terrible movie.

    On the other hand, movies tend to stray from the book and change it. As such things like Dumbledore's hand should be a far less occurring theme. (Considering it would technically need a movie for itself alone if the director kept to the original book.)

    Thus I am not sure how this will go. The big things that will make or break this movie, in my opinion, is how they will do most of the year. The end of HPB will be hard to screw up and hopefully will be rather epic, but from what little I remember of the book, most of the year was dull as all hell with reliving Tom's Memories being one of the highlights.

    ...which in itself is rather sad.

    Finally I am not sure if muggles can see curses. On one hand its kind of implied, as you see muggles screaming and running during Death Eater attacks, however if you saw a whole group of people die, fall to the ground screaming, explode, etc, for no reason, your not going to hang around.

    My take on it has always been similar to why Discworldians can't see Death. The average muggle cannot comprehend magic, they don't believe in it, and frankly they don't want to be forced to do either. The idea of people being able to kill people with a few words and creatures that suck the happiness out of you is not something that fits with their idea of the natural order of things, so they change it to how it should be.

    That dementor over there doesn't exist...it can't exist...thus I can't see it.

    That idea however doesn't work with Fantastic Beasts however, where a Welsh Green, I think, fly's over a muggle beach and almost exposes wizards to the muggles.
     
  5. Kai Shek

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    I am actually pretty excited about this movie. The book had just enough useful material to make a movie. The rest of it was junk, and quite useless.

    I just hope the director knows what to keep, and what to throw out.
     
  6. BsuperB

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    Necro but here's a new 75 second clip from the film; http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/2513354/Harry-Potter-is-getting-hotter.html

    So, thoughts?

    I'm getting more & more annoyed with how much Mr Yates is changing the Books as he pleases without Rowling interfering more.

    Good parts;

    Bellatrix as always, Introduction of Fenrir - Actually looks the part for once. Fiendfyre (spelling? Away at family residence, no Books here =\.) looks nice, actually animalistic.

    Bad Parts;

    Ginny charging after Harry without dying... Neville & Ginny alongside Harry vs Fenrir & Bellatrix - How can they possibly win this!? Then again Harry killed Voldemort with a disarming charm, so... still have the Dementor-esque Apparation. The whole scene just seems wrong; where would that go in context with the rest of the film? So sick & tired of them making scenes up.
     
  7. DarkAizen

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    Bella is awesome.Her singing "I kill Sirius Black" made my day.

    The whole Ginny jumps in the fire is BS, after book 5 I hoped that Yates was going to ship Hp/Hg but alas...
     
  8. TheDefiantOne

    TheDefiantOne First Year

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    The apparation thing pisses me off so much! I am not interested in seeing damn fog affects I'm expecting some damn popping in and out of places.

    I do still think the movie looks good. Its got really good action and enough comedy to not bore me.

    Though also, the whole "Attack on the Burrow" thing pisses me on also. Its so stupid! Why make shit like that up? There must be stuff you can make up, like Madam Bones being killed or something.
     
  9. Myduraz

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    Fixed that for you, free of charge.
     
  10. rocket_runner

    rocket_runner Seventh Year

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    Alas, almost killing the Weasleys is as close as we can get.

    I'm still pissed that Molly killed Bellatrix. I mean, are you fucking serious? Did she take her out with a cleaning charm? Molly's a housewife and Bellatrix is one of the top - if not the top - death eaters. Adding insult to injury, Molly's a Weasley. Fuck.

    Mmm, I'm rather excited for this movie. At least, I was until I remembered that Harry and Ginny snog in this book. That, of course, sparked mass wretching and ripping out my eyes. ;)

    I actually quite like the apparation. It doesn't follow canon, of course, but it's kind of cool. It made the Department of Mysteries scene pretty awesome. The white/light grey clouds of the Order members and the utter black of the death eaters twisting together was neat. It certainly added an original twist. Also, it allows us to see them travelling. My problem with it lies in the fact that Dumbledore's apparation clouds were black in one of the memories. It's a small detail, but it bugged me all the same.

    I agree with the additions. The Burrow being attacked and the Weasleys almost killed? Fuck yes. That stuff is good any day. Bellatrix causing insane mayhem in the Great Hall? Who fucking cares that it's not canon? Bellatrix is awesome. I totally agree with DarkAizen: few things can top her 'I killed Sirius' song in OOTP. (One thing that would: Ginny being mauled alive by Greyback. I'd pay good money for that.)

    Anyway, I suppose the only things I can complain about (for now) would be the characters. I'm totally pissed Fleur and Bill don't make appearances. And Slughorn being skinny? That's just wrong.

    Hmm... anyway, I suppose my overall opinion is that this movie appears delightfully dark and I can't wait for it's release.
     
  11. Raijin

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    Just as glad we don't see Fleur with what happened to her character and I could do without the Phlegm scene.
     
  12. rocket_runner

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    Her character? You mean how she turned into a fucking junior Molly?
     
  13. Philly Homer

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    I have actually been looking forward to this movie since the trailers started coming out. There were a couple of indications that HBP was going to be much darker than the rest of the movies.

    If they dedicate a good portion of the movie to Death Eaters just going around massacring Muggles, I will probably fall in love with this. The shots from the trailers where the bridge is torn, and DE's go into London actually gave me goosebumps. Combine that with Dumbledore's death, in the movie, and this movie has a shot of being one of my favorites for the year. I might actually jump out and applaud when Snape kills Dumbledore.

    Of course, I know they have to concentrate on the teen romance. All I'm asking is that they keep it to a bare minimum. Supposedly, Yates has given this movie a lot of his own touch, which hopefully saves these parts. Like many here, I believe HBP is where the series went downhill. I think it's a good decision to separate the movies and books, a lot, from here on out.

    Oh and Bellatrix, FTW! "I kill Sirius Black. I kill Sirius Black"
     
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  14. Blaise

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    Agree with everyone bagging on the apparation; it gets more and more retarded everytime I see it. I had high hopes that it would resemble the teleporting from the opening scene from X:2, but alas...

    I suppose there's something easier about filming the smoke-trail stuff? I dunno.
     
  15. enembee

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    The apparition thing, iirc, was because it's cinema and if you can't see where people are travelling, it's far less ominous for the kids who don't understand psychological horror.
     
  16. Kthr

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    I don't really think of that smoke thing apparition, I rather imagine it as a high speed movement magic trick. Either way, it does not bother me that much.

    What does bother me is the light show we get from spells. With the lack of a "Laser beam" kind of spell, the instant light at the wand -> enemy makes the battle pretty stupid. Not to mention the reaction time of everyone seems way too fast.
    Edit: my mistake, it seems the stunning spell he sent took half a second to reach Greyback,
    Not to mention, if that was fiendfire what the heck was Neville(I assume that was him) keeping it at bay with Lupin? And don't forget Lupin drawing his wand slowly, while bellatrix and that flame were already ready to attack them.

    But I still hold some hope that after all the hallows crap is over in book 7, we will watch some wicked duel between Harry and Voldemort. It would feel severely lacking to watch all the drama from the 7 movies end with a expelliarmus. At least it seems they are going that way with all the special efects and new scenes they are including.

    And at least Ginny did something useful. Stupid, but useful. Having Harry just fall in love with her from nowhere, at least it seems they are developing a friendship/partnership by fighting together. I know, a stupid reason, but its better than the potion-induced-chest-monster.
     
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  17. Philly Homer

    Philly Homer What you call elephant cum I call mouthwash

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  18. Xiph0

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    What'd they say about OotP? Also, I refuse to say any movie is the best that doesn't have the original DD.
     
  19. Philly Homer

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    You can't really blame on anyone but the old man himself, since he had the audacity to die before shooting all 7 films.
     
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  20. Xiph0

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    Meh, he made the character for me, not this raging hippy, so while HBP might be a good movie, it will never be one of the best.
     
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