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Discussion in 'Trash Bin' started by bombastic08, Jul 7, 2009.

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  1. bombastic08

    bombastic08 Squib

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    True, I didn't read those guidelines, I didn't even notice them since I've been using this site to find good Dark!Harry fics and not to post comments, since I rarely review stories. But I have been checking this site for months, so that it could direct me to ffnet, ficwad and patronuscharm.net links of good stories, and I only thought of signing in and posting a recommendation when I finished reading these fics, since I liked them, and when I went looking for fics I didn't find them in the library. You say these fics have been posted here? Well, I certainly didn't see them during my search for fics or I wouldn't have bothered to post myself, would I?

    And I only wasted time defending the fic, as you put it, when my post was attacked without me having given offense to anyone. I certainly didn't see beforehand that no slash fics could be mentioned, or I wouldn't have bothered to go through with all of this. But I certainly learned my lesson, and next time I'll only recommend fics which I believe to be accepted by guys.

    As for your so called strong female characters, that depends on your views. My idea of such is a slightly saner Bellatrix and nothing short of that, and I certainly haven't seen Harry paired with someone like that. But, tastes will be tastes.
     
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    enembee The Nicromancer DLP Supporter

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    This was asking for a blamming. Besides the obvious stuff like Slash and raped!Harry the prequel doesn't stand out as a piece of literature and as the sequel builds on this, the entire plot degenerates into a useless mush, like a building with no foundation. I did read a bit, but found the characterization of everyone involved a little difficult to swallow as well as some of the language and writing annoying and/or tedious to read through.

    I certainly don't think it's library worthy, in terms of plot or literature.

    2/5

    On the other hand, I applaud your attempt to try and challenge the consensus. Have a cookie.
     
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    NB4 She's a bear.
     
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    When half a chapter solely contains a drawn out sex scene wherein Lord Voldemort/Tom Riddle fingers Harry in the arse and then proceeds to screw him in said arse, I'd hardly call it pure plot.

    I did try to read this story a few months back, the writing is good as it is, but it's next to impossible to ignore all the graphic slash. Not to mention the slash relationships that penetrate the whole story.

    Badmouthing Fleur? TAR AND FEATHERS!!!
     

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    Quote for truth. Like the Sacrifices septology (by Lighting on the Wave), every single sentence is dripping with unmerited teenage angst and melodrama. Voldemort, an adult and someone who is supposed to be pure evil, acts like a 14 year old teenage girl who just got told she has to be back home by 10PM. As do all the other characters.

    Also, a lack of "vulgar words" does not make the sex non-explicit. In fact, the "description by emotion" crap is the most sickly retch-inducing written word I've ever seen. Not because it's slash, but because it's slash written so fucking badly. If you wrote straight smut like this it'd be just as bad - and is, when you read these H/G or H/Hr "I love you" "No I love you more" "No I love YOU more" sex scenes.
     
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    ^ This wins the thread
     
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    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    @Female OP: Imagine my palm somewhere near my face.

    It's stereotypical.

    /sumdat irony


    Anyway, about the story.

    Opening paragraph:

    And right there, you entered the trap. In order to have Harry 'change' and 'grow' and build up his character to make him strong eventually, the author feels the need to start with a weak, abused Harry. And that fucking fails. I hate that. Go read Philosopher’s Stone again. Compare that Harry (who's only a few months older) with this one. It's OOC to a point where it's retarded. That isn't Harry -- Canon!Harry. Sure, you can argue that this is an AU, so the author can change Harry's character.

    In that case I argue the story sucks, because the premise is shit.

    It's perfectly doable to build Harry's character up without starting with him 'trembling in between sobs'. Of course, you might have to put more work into it. Maybe this is what happens when you can't or won't.



    Congratulations, now you really managed to make me angry. I take personal offence to that. I can't stand weak female characters. In fact, in my stories, it's gotten to a point where the female partner -- or antagonist, as the case may be -- is sometime critisised as too strong by readers, because she threatens to overshadow Harry. In fact, that was why I found the H/G pairing in HBP to be redeemable -- because Rowling didn't go the route you pointed out above (well, until DH that is, but let's not talk about that now).

    Furthermore, I object fiercely to Fleur being "vapid, delicate and useless". You complain about stereotypes? The only one who is flinging around one stereotype after the next is you. Fleur is a brainless bimbo, and that's what I like?

    Go suck a dick.
     
  9. bombastic08

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    heh, yeah, I do bad-mouth Fleur. At least in how she's depicted in canon and in the stories I've read so far. You tell me of a good story with a strong, powerful, and DARK Fleur who can rival a Dark!Harry in power, and I'll admit defeat regarding my complain of weak female characters chosen for a Dark Harry. There's a worthy challenge, indeed.

    And you go suck a dick, I certainly didn't insult you, did I? That you need to fling around insults just shows the little confidence you have in your argument, or you wouldn't need to insult anyone to make a point. As for reading your fics, I was certainly interested when you mentioned that you wrote strong characters, at first, but an author who so rudely insults people definitely doesn't merit any consideration and it only indicates that his work could be just as trashy as his mouth.
     
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  10. Skeletaure

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    Yeah, because a person has to be magically strong to have strong character. Yeah, because you have to be "DARK" to be powerful.

    Wait, I do remember this character from Harry Potter, I think his name might have been Albus Dumbledore...
     
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    Yes, and we all remember how stupidly he died in canon, don't we? Dark and powerful is a preference, it doesn't mean that they are always correlated. The proof is in how Voldemort died just as pathetically in canon as well.
     
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    SNORE.

    filler

    Also, in b4 Taure, Voldemort was dark and powerful and he died even more stupidly. So did Bellatrix Black.
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    After over a century of being the top of the magical world, setting in motion a plan to end the greatest threat to wizard kind since the last greatest threat to wizard kind that he got rid of?

    P.S. Oz says hi:

     
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    "I'LL KILL YOU YOU BITCCHHHH" screamed Mrs. Weasley pathetically.

    This.
     
  15. Oz

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    Wow, I hope you die painfully with a virgin rails train embedded in your vagina. No joke.

    EDIT: Hi.
     
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    I'd rather read mohd's work than this, 'nuff said.

    1/5. Unbearable.
     
  17. bombastic08

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    But Dumbledore didn't kill the former threat, did he? He didn't kill Grindelwald, just got him locked in Nurmengard, and Voldemort had to kill the old dark wizard himself. And supposedly, Rowling had intended all along for an implicit Dumbledore/Grindelwald romance. Albeit, of course, no same-pairing romance in canon for the kiddies or the adults, or it would have dropped the sales as if tied to a weight-lift. Not that I complain, spare me old men together, at least.

    anyway, this discussion is quite pointless. filler, as one said above.

    Hope the same for you Oz, with much sweetness, though up through another part, of course.
     
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  18. Oz

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    You just prefer children getting raped.
     
  19. Skeletaure

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    Between 1945 and 1998 when he died, did Grindelwald trouble the wizarding world once?

    No.

    Clearly Dumbledore got rid of that threat quite effectively. Without killing him.
     
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    Bombastic08, just stop while you're ahead.
     
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