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A muggleborn from a fundamentalistic family?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ray243, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. ray243

    ray243 Seventh Year

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    I was wondering, has there any been any fanfiction where people actually touch on the topic of a muggleborn that comes from a ultra-religious family?

    One that truly believe that wizards are evil and all that?

    How will the wizarding authorities respond to muggle family who brainwashed their child into thinking that they are evil and all that? How would wizarding authorities deal with family that bascially tortured their child with all sorts of exorcism?
     
  2. Bittersweet

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    They wouldn't know about the exorcism as they would only register a case of accidental magic and send someone over to convince the parents to let their child come when the kid turned eleven.

    The parents, being highly religious, would think the devil himself had come and would generally cause a ruckus. The wizard/witch would then see no further option but to obliviate the parents and leave, writing off the child.

    To answer your original question, I highly doubt it. Although it could make for an interesting if Harry was raised and abused in that climate (i.e. make the Dursleys uber religious). It might make him think his abuse is deserved and make him loathe, instead of love, the magical world. Where the author akes it from there could be interesting.
     
  3. Sorrows

    Sorrows Queen of the Flamingos Moderator

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    In England, fundamentalists are much less common than they are in America. There not unheard of however so the story could work, it would be a interesting dimension to a character anyway.
     
  4. Iztiak

    Iztiak Prisoner DLP Supporter

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    It's been done. I know it. Without the religion though. It's been done tons of times.

    Only once was it decent. And I cannot remember the name...
     
  5. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    There was a story where the Dursleys raised Harry to be ultra-religious and view himself as evil and magic something that had to be purged. Called "Catechism", I believe.

    An interesting idea, but the end result is inevitably a massive angst-fest.

    Edit: Here it is http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2006636/1/Catechism
     
  6. Seratin

    Seratin Proudmander –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, there's one called Harry Potter and the Arabian knights.

    [​IMG]

    This is sangeev. He specialises in Transfiguration.
     
  7. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Why would anyone want to write/read about this?

    Incest fics fall on one end of the "Shit Not Worth Reading" spectrum; this definitely falls on the other. It's simply not interesting, and would turn into a self-hating emofest like someone pointed out earlier. Think of that albino from DaVinci Code. Now give him magic. It you came up with Dobby (fanatical being with magic and a tendency towards self-mutilation), you're understanding why this is a (thankfully) underutilized plot device.

    We already have vampire!Harry, neglected twin BWL plots, and plots involving hyper-abusive Dursleys to bring out Harry the emosexual; let's not add more fuel to the fire.
     
  8. Darje

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    I did read a one-shot where the Dursleys were satanists. I thought it was an amazing idea, too bad it was a one-shot.
     
  9. ray243

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    I have to wonder can the wizarding community really stand a muggle parent essentially calling them devils and mentally abusing their child. I think we cannot rule out on the possibility of wizards taking away the child from the parents.

    Well, which really makes me believe that muggle-wizards relationship might be more screwed up in the US than the UK.
     
  10. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Wow, another amazing thread by Ray... /sargasms
    Abused Harry is fucking fail and over done. So no, Bittersweet, Abused Harry from this standpoint would not be interesting because there are 10k other fics in which he's being ass raped by someone already.

    This thread makes me want to do bad things to cute animals. I would also like to remind JB that Harry/Fem!Harry is the hottest, coolest thing since sliced bread. It depends on the type of incest. Anyone writing Harry/Petunia should be shot, as only Harry/Lily, or Fem!himself is worth reading.
     
  11. ray243

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    I'm not talking about another abused Harry fanfic. I'm talking about how will wizards and the Minstry of Magic deal with any muggleborn that comes from a fundementalistic family.

    Great job at putting words into my mouth, when I didn't even mention anything about Harry Potter in this thread so far.
     
  12. Wildfeather

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    Memory charm?

    "wizards are teh eviiil!111!1!11one!11!!!! They must burn! Suffer not a which to live"

    "Obliviate!"
     
  13. Blaise

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    No, it doesn't. No, it's not. No it doesn't. Yes they should, and no it's not.

    Assuming that wizards even care, this. A family would only be as fundamentalist as their memory charmed minds would allow. They could have their whole religious views reprogrammed fairly easily, which makes for a rather small blip as a plot device. Ignoring that, I'd think that any fundamentalist family would have to give up their beliefs in the face of the existence of magic. Or they could view it as a gift from God, who knows.

    Or they could kill their kid upon receipt of their Hogwarts letter - which also makes for a rather short story.
     
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  14. Zombie

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    I put words in your mouth in hopes of you reacting like a faggot.

    I got my reaction.

    Edit:
    As well as, its assumed that you're talking about Harry Potter, considering this is a Harry Potter board. Not only that, who the fuck cares about any other Wizards that's not Harry, or plays a central role? The only people that would matter in any story would be Harry, Ron, Hermione and the rest of the cast that you see frequently- It wouldn't matter if some fuck from America, who was a fundamentalist, transfered to Hogwarts, as it would not be conclusive to the plot of the story to even mention it.

    Also, I doubt the ministry would give a shit about Religion, because largely, its not even mentioned in canon if anyone has any sort of faith. I mean come the fuck on, its a magical society. Who needs religion when you've got magic?

    So like I said, yet another amazing fucking thread by you about a topic that means horse shit in the long run. There, I put enough words in your mouth?
     
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  15. kjp

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    Wouldn't the kid just kill himself in hopes of redemption in god's eyes. And if not wouldn't the parents kill the kid.
     
  16. Perspicacity

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    I read one once that had Harry adopted by a family of religious fundamentalists in the U.S. It was done as light comedy with an innocent Harry unable to figure out why he, of all the children, kept getting singled out for extra bible readings and devotions. I don't remember much more, except that at one point his ability to talk with serpents led to an exorcism.

    The story ran for about three chapters before it ran out of gas and the author abandoned it. I think it been since taken off ff.net because it appears hidden to my Google-fu. (I'd look it up, but I remember it being linked from the now-defunct ffa.net forum).

    As a one-shot, it might work, but there's just not enough meat to sustain a longer story. Besides, as noted by Zombie and Justblaise, who'd want to read it?
     
  17. ZeroTheDestroyer

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    Well if it is a comedy I would actually read it.

    "There they are, witches! Let's get'em," Harry yelled, leading a mob of KKK to Hogwarts, "They are evil I tell ya, evil! Don't let their 10 year old faces fool ya! Drop that torch John! The only way to kill a wizard is with a rifle!"

    Apparentlythe KKK not only hate other races but wizards as well, go figure.
     
  18. Sorrows

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    This would be an interesting twist on magical America, perhaps instead of it being the happy flappy land of magical equality, the higher concentration of christian fundamentalism has polarized the wizarding community and lead to isolation, especially in the southern states.

    The attitude could stem from the antebellum periods religious revival.
     
  19. Kerrus

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    While certainly the fundies are typically 'lolmagic' it'd be interesting to see a fic where the Church is based on the original translation of the source material- the hebrew word for 'witch' apparently refers to evil magic user, not just 'magic user'

    Besides, now I've got this image of highly religious durseleys, non abused Harry, but like, really religious well behaved inquisitve indy harry.

    His letter comes and they read witchcraft and Petunia wants to write it off, but Voice-of-reason!Vernon minored in language studies in college and has a hebrew bible or something, and goes "This actually says blah blah blah".

    Or maybe they write it off, more letters come, they write it off, more letters come, then an Archbishop shows up on their doorstep with a letter from the Pope.
     
  20. ray243

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    Why can't we discuss about the wizarding world in general? I wasn't aware we have rules against discussing that. If you don't like what we are discussing here, you can always choose to ignore this thread.

    Just because you don't believe in religion doesn't mean religious issues won't affect you. Given the fact that muggles in the past do burn witches due to religious reason.
     
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