Canon Harry never wanted any of that, and unless the story begins in the middle, it wouldn't fit.

 

Curse-Breaking for Gringots?

Or another Goblin Rebellion, and Harry's trying to get something before it's used to wipe wizards out?

 

A serious idea of mine:

Harry & British India:

1. Harry is arrives in India 1944, shortly after WW2 ends in Europe (means is irrelevant, but obviously some form of time travel, I probably would only allude to how he got there, not going into much detail)

2. Quit India is fresh. Ghandi, Nehru, Jinnah, are all politically active /and/ major figures in magical society.

Ghandi - Ghandi is a Dumbledore figure, Harry draws this comparison. However, despite Ghandi's obvious dislike for violence, he belongs to an oppressive majority of Hindu nationalists which eerily mirrors Voldemort's death eaters.

Nehru - Nehru is the brains behind the INC and is corrupt, a Voldemort figure. He is magically powerful.

Jinnah - Jinnah is the leader of the Mulsim League and very pro-European. He does not have a direct comparison to Harry's previous life, however, he is perhaps a cross between Dumbledore and Voldemort politically. He has western ideals of equality and abhors chaos, but what he supports is not always in alignment with Harry's foreknowledge of history.

3. Basic plot: After realizing he cannot get a ship back to England and further realizing he is in a different time period altogether, Harry resigns himself to staying in India for the time being. He realizes he needs a job, so he gets one as a footman (postal service for gov't personnel). There he meets Nayantara Sahgal (niece of Nehru) and befriends her and her mother. Upon seeing Harry's skill in magic and articulation, she says her brother (Nehru) could always use another clerk fluent in English. She supposes Harry could buy his way back to England in a few months.

Taking the job, Harry becomes acquainted with law and the British/Indian legal system. During his correspondence with Nehru, Harry encounters many political rallies and protests, violent clashes with the British and other racial minorities. He discovers 'magical India' and learns about its origins and how it was shaped by the Muslims and the British. He begins to draw comparisons between England and India and finds himself becoming attached to the place, wondering if his presence in India will change its history.

Harry eventually falls out of favor with Nehru, believing he will only create strife. Harry, enticed by a rumor, joins another political faction - the (magical) communist party of India. I have some really fun ideas here. Although Harry's been a fascist, I don't think he's been a communist yet.

After seeing that the communist's means are not too different from Nehru's, Harry finally comes under the employment of Jinnah and the Muslin League. Harry is sympathetic, having seen Indian Muslims the subject of discrimination and is entranced by Jinnah, whose speeches reflect Harry's attitudes on magic, race, political freedom, and government. Of course, he also knows about the founding of Pakistan and the number of people killed in its creation.

Up until this point, Harry has had some minor conflicts with Hindu nationalists, Sikhs, communists, and British authorities. His relative-invisibility in India will be unmasked when he joins Jinnah. From there it's all out war, with Harry coming into duels with Hindus, Ghandi and Nehru (who use magic Harry is unfamiliar to dealing with).

Jinnah takes Harry as a major figure in the magical portion of his party because he can feel a strange power in him. I will make some pretty amusing ties to Harry and Islam (looking through the Koran I actually found a few lines about Allah and his relation to the star, Sirius).

That's all I have so far. Though a part of the conflict will be Harry's attraction to Nayantara and his foreknowledge of history, as well as his inability to pick a side, since he feels betrayed by Dumbledore and weary from fighting Voldemort in his 'previous' life... so yeah, the plot needs some work still.

4. The story will have some correct historical context, however, it will differ drastically - especially in its characterization of Nehru and the Hindus, as well as some other political figures. It will be half-faithful to history though, just enough to make people believe it all actually happened .

How's this all sound? I may never write it, but I do like planning it, it sounds like something fun and new - I don't think I've ever read a story that's gone into British India and magical society, which by all means should have a bigger role than JKR gives it.

 

Alright, I've not read the discussions going on up till now, but since I got a small idea while enjoying the milky white smoke of a water-pipe, I might as well share it. It's nothing grand, maybe a sentence or two just to maybe jump-start a few of your plot-generating minds into action. This would be a 7th or post-7th year fic most probably, unless you come up with something else.

When Harry becomes the Master of Death, he remembers the old tale about how Death gave the three brothers its Hallows and gets the idea to summon the spirit of Death using the Stone.

There. One sentence of an idea. How about it?

 

Develop the idea more. As it is, it could go anywhere.

 

What Death does he summon? The Discworld version or the traditional one?

 

You could really take this in a thousand different directions. You'll need to figure out what genre of story you want it to become before you do anything with it.

 

Have him summon the Endless (from Neil Gaiman's Sandman) version of Death. She's hot, powerful, and you could even throw the other Endless in if you wanted to.

 

I was about to rec Pratchett's DEATH, but even I have to admit that he's overused.

 

I had a somewhat stupid story idea [though with the potential of being awesome] last night, and I wanted to know if there's something in there.

So, from my experience of HP/Naruto cross-overs, either Dumbledore hires ninja [Naruto] to protect Harry, or Harry is brought to Konoha by a ninja who sees his abuse by the Dursleys.

My idea is a combination of the two.

Ninjas are Awesome. Evil shall never triumph Awesome; Dumbledore knows this. After Harry has been marked by Voldemort, Dumbledore prepares him to meet his destiny in the awesome-st place ever, the Land of the Shinobi - the Naruto-verse.

I think that this kind of story should be from Dumbledore's POV. Also, as a serious story would probably be a hard sell, a somewhat loopy Dumbledore might be in order.

What do you think?

 

Didn't even notice...

And yeah, I know almost all of the HP/Naruto cross-overs suck, but A Personal Matter is okay, and maybe this is too.

 

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I don't think it will work. Not with what you have. That's the same plot every NarutoHP crossover has. They're bad too.

Harry becoming a ninja: fail. Harry being protected by ninja: fail. A ninja story needs movement (multiple settings), which is the antithesis of most HP stories (which are in a fixed setting), nevermind the magic systems don't mesh at all and none of the Naruto characters bring enough depth to the storyline to create anything interesting.

 

This is completely unrelated, but has anyone ever written a sort-of hp history book?

Or pseudo-theoretical essays on spells and magical animagi (I wrote one of those, back in my mad teens) perhaps canonize a few of the more common aspects of fanfic magic, to compare alternative ideas to (i.e to have a reason to call a time travel explanation fail)

 

Taure wrote a whole thesis on HP Magical theory. You can find it on his ff.net profile or on here.

On topic, Grubdubdub, that naruto idea won't work unless you have something truly spectacularly different planned.

But I'd love to see Indiana Jones!Harry.

 

Plot bunny 1 : Little Harry runs away from Dursleys. Mrs.Figg/DD´s litle trinkets in his office alarmed him but he is not worried. He has the Deluminator.
He uses it to track Harry but he does not know that using Deluminator will land him in the middle of a very busy street. Not even Fawkes could save DD from death under wheels of cars.
Harry, by some twist of fate, picks up Elder Wand thrown away by impact. Now author can decide if its powers are still in existence or perhaps little kid who does not know anything about magic has the most powerful but not entirely stable wand in his hands.
And the Wizarding World and entire HP´s life would be very different without all-manipulating (for Greater Good or because of his care for Harry) DD.

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Plot bunny 2 : Halloween 1991 - one of most tragic days in history of Hogwarts. After Ron Weasley misspelled incantation for Wingardium Leviosa and ended crushed under buffalo, Hermione Granger ended splattered on walls of bathroom because of troll´s club and Quirinus Quirrell decided that arrival of Aurors because of these deaths would be detrimental to his plan, he decided to steal PS while everyone else is busy with aftermath of troll´s attack.

He volunteers to go with HP (still in shock) to infirmary but he uses Imperius Curse on him and commands him to follow him to 3rd floor corridor. HP is still too young and inexperienced to fully shrug curse off but he fights entire way and is slowing Quirell enough for them to meet another student/professor.

QQ, annoyed with Harry´s resistance tries to kill obstacle but does not count on HP´s stubborness and tenacity. Harry decides it was enough killing for one evening and because he does not know any spells to thwart QQ, he hurls himself at him and burns him to death.

Now, HP is witness or perpetrator in three deaths in space of one evening and is questioned by DMLE (not even DD could just hide this). But what happens next ?

Will he be sent to Azkaban for duration of investigation when he meets his Godfather ? Or will his frustration with his lack of knowledge that meant he could not even try to save Ron or Hermione lead him to ask DMLE for help (and they could be eagerly helping him because of first vanquishing of V or they could be suspicious of him because of all deaths) ? Or will he swear that he will not lose any more friends like this and will bury himself in dark or illegal arts to understand dangers of W World and to better fight them ?

 

I'll stop you right there. Dumbledore dying like that is ludicrous. Dumbledore should surely know about automobiles, as well as how to apparate in a split second.

I don't buy it.

 

Well, skimming the other the idea, it looks like he's basically suggesting crackfics-with-plots. Or perhaps making it look like he is, just to fish for responses.

I'll actually play him straight: I would assume that these would be humor stories, because there's no way that would work straight. Writing good humor-fic isn't easy. You can't just come up with allegedly funny situations; you need to actually be able to make funny dialogue, and write funny prose. So, start ruminating on the nature of a proper humorfic.

Hey, it's a better idea than (possibly) trolling the Plot Bunny thread.

 

Here's a squicky idea that's been floating around in my head lately,
Dark!Harry uses the Imperius Curse on the Dursley's to make them his slaves, Vernon's only reason for existing becomes to work and provide Harry with spending money, Dudley is either ordered into a catotonic state and kept in the basement, or becomes basically Harry's House-Elf, Petunia becomes his fucktoy, he lifts the curse from her only to fulfill his sadistic desires, then when he's done with her he reapplies the curse.

Harry then gets Horace Slughorn to be his private 'tutor', with his only assignment being to use magic as much as he wants whenever he wants, and then he'd be able to bypass the Decree for the Reasonable Restriction of Underage Sorcery.
He could also get Slughorn to put a Fidelus Charm on Number 4 Privet Drive with Harry as Secret Keeper to keep the Order, or anyone else from finding out about what he's doing. Also, he could give Slughorn a few Galleons to use magic to transform the inside of the House into a mansion.