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Complete The Denarian Lord by Shezza 88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by XxEnvyxX, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Rehio

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    How soon do you think it'll be before she gets back?
     
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    I'll fucking buy her one if she doesn't get one soon.
     
  3. Skeletaure

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    Er...why not?
     
  4. KrzaQ

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    Hogwarts, Hogwarts, Fawkes (as he has no idea she's dead).
     
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    1. Go out the front gates, apparate.

    2. Hogwarts doesn't stop portkeys (certainly not outgoing ones, at least).

    3. Fawkes keeps an eye on things, but she doesn't have a blanket block on everything. Remember in DR he summoned Cessbulby in Hogwarts.
     
  6. KrzaQ

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    1. That was my point. Of course once he left Hogwarts he'd be rather safe, but we know that Aurors will be entering the castle very soon - if they haven't already.

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    3. It was a specially prepared room with wards lifted there.
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    Fair dos. However, I think this is underestimating Harry somewhat. I think at this stage, if Dumbledore can do it, Harry can too.
     
  8. KrzaQ

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    He wouldn't need Dumbledore to make him portkeys out of Azkaban and Gringotts if he could make them himself. For all we know Harry's lessons with Dumbledore only covered Words and some duelling, not portkey creation or anything else. Or maybe it was the Elder Wand that allowed creation of such portkeys?

    On a side note, is knowledge that Dumbledore's alive "the power he knows not"?
     
  9. greywizard-dumblemort

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    I think the biggest problem Harry's going to have with the aurors is fighting without killing them. That would definitely make his escape a hard one but beyond that I can't see the aurors defeating even a tired Harry.
    The gap between Harry/Dumbledore/Voldemort and 'other wizards' is a fuckin' chasm.

    I'm interested to see just how Dumbledore survives this one. I'm leaning towards fawkes being recovered enough for one final save.
    Either that or Harry's counting on his minion below but that's a bit farfetched.
     
  10. Skeletaure

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    Re: Portkeys, Harry can already make them. He made one to bring him from America to Scotland in DR.
     
  11. KrzaQ

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    Of course he can. I was talking about portkeys that can get one ouf of Azkaban. Or Gringotts. Or Hogwarts. So far, we haven't seen anyone but Dumbledore perform that.
     
  12. Skeletaure

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    Er... Triwizard portkey to Little Hangleton?
     
  13. KrzaQ

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    I always thought that it worked because either the grounds aren't covered by wards or the cup was a portkey created by Dumbledore and redirected by Crouch Jr.

    That's canon, but for the Denarian Trilogy, you have this question answered:
     
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    So Barty Crouch Jr. could do something that HP couldn't?

    Hmm.

    I find it more likely that the above simply means that Harry wasn't willing to expend the effort needed to break through the Hogwarts wards or work around them.

    For himself, this would be another matter.
     
  15. KrzaQ

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    I'm not sure he could break the the wards in reasonable amount of time, if at all.
    Barty Crouch Jr. had Dumbledore's portkey handy to redirect. I don't think Harry has one. (although it'd be a good idea to keep such a portkey to a safe location on oneself). This explanation also covers why Voldemort seeked another way to enter Hogwarts instead of simply portkeying there: even if he portkeyed to the grounds, he'd still have wards to break.
     
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    Harry doesn't have the same level of experience Dumbledore has at being a wizard. His Denarian side has always come first, and though his demonic abilities supplement his magical ones, Harry just doesn't have as vast a repertoire of spells.

    That being said, Harry/Meciel are so powerful that he no doubt has the ability to pull off the spells that Dumbledore uses, he just doesn't know them all himself.
     
  17. Skeletaure

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    Assuming that this is how he did it, which you've pretty much arbitrarily decided.

    Personally I think it's probably much easier to get out of Hogwarts than it is to get in.
     
  18. KrzaQ

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    Yes, I was assuming my second theory was right. Anyway, the sentence should be "Barty Crouch Jr. managed something that neither Voldemort nor Harry could.". And honestly, if it were so simple, Harry would make a portkey for these students, just like he made one for kidnapped children in 10th chapter of TDL. all it was for him, was an one-worded spell, surely less time and effort consuming than warding the door.
     
  19. Koalas

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    Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Dumbledore is an exception to the normal Hogwarts portkey/apparating rules because he's Fawkes' familiar and Headmaster of Hogwarts?
     
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    In canon, I doubt that would be true. Other wise he wouldn't have needed to walk to Hogsmeade to apperate in the sixth book.
     
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