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Opinions Wanted on Dark Lord Harry idea

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Riley, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. Averis

    Averis Don of Delivery ~ Prestige ~

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    1. He killed the man with the elder wand, the man who was just trying to defend himself, and the Aurors saw him do it.

    2. If they are Voldemort's personal army, then of course they'd persue Harry and attack him.

    The story needs three things: 1 - a third party that has been hoping to find the elder wand themselves. 2 - a Harry that's focused on one thing only and 3 - Fleur Delacour.

    Owned.
     
  2. Gulliver

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    If the Aurors were his personal army then they would have been fighting alongside the Death Eaters to begin with - and Harry would have probably destroyed them with his insane-godlike-powers.

    I see your point about them wanting to police the murder, but I honestly think that it would probably be reconsidered if he killed Voldemort.

    I also see your point about Fleur.
     
  3. Lion

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    I think it would be original if the story started after his fall with Harry trying to regain all that he lost. His getting to the top before the fall can be explained in flashbacks along with exactly how he fell.
     
  4. Trooper

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    My honest suggestion as a reader/Audiance: Instead of thinking whether to start at Harry's height or Fall, think of a proper plot. When I say plot I mean a detailed thing with the whole chapter layout and everything.

    Don't start with just a concept. It often leads to fail. Its like writing a fic just to justify a pairing, which is more fail.

    Again, unles you're one of the best authors around and can captivate your readers with your ass, concentrate on plot.

    The other option is a pure character development fic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I don't think you were aiming for that exactly.

    [Off-Topic Rant] A very good example of an excellent author just going along with concept alone is Fosfor/Case13 in Naruto fanfics. A lot of good quality fics going exactly no-where. He even has a 100k one shot pending on TFF. >_>
    [/Off-Topic Rant]
     
  5. Nemrut

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    Fixed that for you :awesome


    I like this in general but as to why Ron is immediately dropped at the beginning I will never understand. Unless it is based on pure Ron hatred which is ironic since he would most likely support Harry in doing the necessary to stop Voldemort.

    It should also show a more conflicted Harry who is driven to take that wand. Justgoing after it because dumbledore said so will not make him immediately ruthless. He should think that this is his only chance.
     
  6. Oz

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    You leave my sweaty, fatty balls alone, World!
     
  7. ecic

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    Fixed that for you :awesome:awesome:awesome
    Triple Owned
     
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  8. Seratin

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    Fixed it for all of you.
     
  9. MattSilver

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    Are Harry/Luna/Fleur threesomes and a decent plot mutually exclusive? Can't we all just enjoy both?
     
  10. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Fact #1: Luna is retarded.
    Fact #2: Being retarded does NOT make you cute.

    I'll never understand the fascination. Vash's explanation that she's easy to get because she won't know what you're doing works, I suppose, but as for the rest of you? You wouldn't date a chick like that IRL.

    Also, Harry having more than one g/f is inversely proportional to the quality of the story. So yes, in this case, it is mutually exclusive.
     
  11. MattSilver

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    Oh well... Guess I'll take the decent plot over the potential for threesomes.
     
  12. Oz

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    Sesc, I hereby respectfully request that you shut your whore mouth about Luna.
     
  13. Wildfeather

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    I've always wondered how the inclusion of "respectfully" makes anything you say afterwords okay.
     
  14. Scott

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    No I fixed it for all of you.

    Also Harry losing his powers sucks, at least make him die... By Tonks :awesome
     
  15. Portus

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    And to back up his claims, Sesc offers proof that retards aren't cute.

    You say all this as if she's a drooling retard or has Down's Syndrome or something. [No offense to anyone with a DS person in their family, but there's nothing physically attractive about them, to be sure.] Need I remind you she's in Ravenclaw, despite her quirkiness, and while your tastes might run towards stiff and stolid bitches like Narcissa Malfoy (judging by your love of the pureblood crap-ola, etc. a la Of Blacks and Malfoys), some folks happen to enjoy a girl that likes to have fun and doesn't take life so goddamn seriously all the time. Yes, I say this knowing I'm normally a big fan of H/Hr, but we're discussing Luna at present.

    Whether you believe canon-Luna really believes in Snorkacks et al, or sorta believes and also marches to her own drum, you can't deny that she's a damn sight more fun to hang with than any other chick in the whole series, with the possible exception of Tonks, but Harry isn't around Tonks enough to say for certain. And there's also no denying that Harry felt better about either himself or the situation in general after every conversation he had with Luna. Put a price on that.

    I can't argue that. I have read maybe one harem fic that didn't leave me wondering why I wasted my time. Well, a couple did give me a boner...

    I'll second that, Oswald. Or is Oz short for it Ozymandias?

    It's like here in the southern U.S., where people think they can get away with saying almost anything about a person so long as they preface it with "God Bless Him/Her..." or "Bless His/Her Heart..."
     
  16. psihary

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    Finally somebody said it...
     
  17. Oz

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    Portus, Oz is short for All-Powerful-Oz. :D

    And screw you too, psiharry. ;-;
     
  18. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    This just had me rolling.

    Now, on to the matter of Luna:

    Each female character can bring her own positives in Canon. Luna's fun to be around, Hermione is a warm and friendly figure, Ginny is generally supporting, and so on and so forth...

    Of course, they can also suck hard. Luna can be irritating if she gives out a random tidbit when its not something needed at the moment. Hermione is a perfectionist who seeks to be always right, and Ginny has little to nothing that makes her stand out as a human being.

    In conclusion, you lot owe me back 5 minutes of my life that were spent reading this thread.
     
  19. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Lol. Apparently, someone is

    It reads a little as if I just stole your candy, what with your link and all, but well, to indulge you. I say this not "as if she is a drooling retard". She believes in imaginary creatures and ludicrous conspiracy theories (Stubby Boardman/Sirius, Fudge's army of Heliopaths, her plethora of invisible creatures etc.pp. I don't need to continue.)

    And calling that "quirkiness" is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not an endearing or even remotely positive trait. She sprouts weird shit no one cares about. It works in Canon because she's there as a comic relief. To that extent, it works in FF as well, obviously; but if you want to use her character further than that, she's simply a nutcase (barring the retconning of "she's only fucking with people", which basically means you're giving her the OC-do-over). Her being in Ravenclaw has nothing to do with anything, of course, as does my personal fondness for Methene's works.

    And why wouldn't I deny that she's fun to hang around with? She isn't. If that was IRL, I've no patience to listen to conspiracy theories and talks about weird creatures. Certainly, you may find her and her ideas funny -- meaning, of course, that you laugh about her, instead of with her. Sounds great? I thought not. If you want Canon-"fun to hang around with", compare her character to Ginny and see the difference. That Harry feels better after "every conversation" with Luna (all three or so of them) ... if you're talking about the one at the end of OotP, sure. Makes 1/3 of all conversations, at least.

    Incidentally, it was the one time where she didn't went on some tangent with Snorkacks or Nargles or Heliopaths. The other times, Harry is weirded out. So yeah, she'd work (apart from being comic-relief, I mean), if you didn't had her sprouting some line about an imaginary creatures every other meeting, I completely agree -- but then, it wouldn't be Luna anymore, would it?


    Not that all that was even on the table -- I only expressed my incomprehension at the fascination and pointed out that if taken at face value, she isn't quite there. Neither thing is new, but for some reason, it got you ... well, see above.

    /shrugs


    Also, Oz; sorry, brah. But I wasn't talking about Evanna, right?
     
  20. Oz

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