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mangastream.com is usually the first ones to put out a scanlation, often times a day before others.

 

conserving chakra maybe? Since he has always said he cant turn off the Sharingan and it costs him more chakra than it would a Uchiha. Im guessing that more powerful verisons of the Sharingan would likewise costs him more than it would Sasuke.

 

I took it to mean that he doesn't hate Konoha because they made Itachi kill his own clan, but because they go on living their lives without knowing the sacrifice Itachi made for all of them. Irrational, yes. But at least now we know it's a brotherly-love-vengful!Sasuke instead of a WTFPSYCHO!Sasuke with no apparent reason.

It really does make me hate him a little less since now we see his actual motives. Course...that only means he's still deep in the negative for me.

 

Did Sasuke just go blind? Please, let it be so...

Also, I dislike Sakura even more. Honestly, this entire chapter was so telegraphed everyone knew what was gonna happen. At least I hope we'll get a decent fight.

 

Ya he's stupid like that...I gave up trying to understand the logic behind it a while ago and just stick to pure speculation now. Sasuke is not supposed to be rational, it's just that simple. There would be no plot if he went about things in a sensible manner.

 

Ah, Sakura...

You never change.

 

Funny thing is, Naruto could use the same excuse and be even more vindicated using it because he got pulled into the sacrifice that his father made and the first 13 years of his life were pretty much shit because of it.

Still don't like Sasuke. Looking forward to a curb stomp.

 

Yes. Very much waiting for curb stomp.

 

True. Everyone was 'laughing' and enjoying their lives while spitting on his and his father's sacrifice- if anyone, Naruto could relate to this particular circumstance.

I do get what Sasuke's on about though- Itachi made a huge sacrifice and all he got for it in the end was misery and the dishonor of dying as the leaf's greatest traitor/kinslayer. I can imagine Sasuke being overwhelmed by disbelief, grief and guilt; that's actually pretty normal.

Not that I'm agreeing with the manga's current psycho-Sas though, afterall, Itachi made his decision and chose to make that sacrifice for what he believed in. Dark-Sasuke's actions now are in no way redeeming Itachi or achieving any positive outcome. He had a lot of options and he chose the easy way out. Madara didn't even hide the fact that his clan were traitors and the fact that he aided Itachi in the massacre, Sasuke jumped onto his bandwagon anyway.

He's pretty much a douchebag now but to be fair to him I think Sasuke's biggest ailment is Kishimoto's writing. A lot more could have been done with his character while keeping the central theme of the story.

 

Calling him Dark-Sasuke makes it sound like there is good Sasuke.

Then again, there is PURE!Sasuke apparently, so hell I don't know.

 

I always figured that it was the constant usage of the MS sharingan that drove him over the edge since he joined Akatsuki. I mean in the battle against Killer Bee, he was a team player and after that he started to become more and more ruthless.

So this all "Itachi and my clan died for your sins and you don't appreciate it" may sound understandable but, dunno, he just put me off in this chapter and I mean more than usual. I actually like Sasuke's character and agree that Kishi has dropped the ball while writing him and the others.

 

Itachi knew exactly what would happen once he did what he did. He understood the price he would pay for peace. He put the good of the village ahead of that of his own happiness and that of his clan. Sasuke is nothing like Itachi and I dont believe Sasuke can comprehend why Itachi did it.

I say Naruto has more in common with Itachi than Sasuke does. Naruto doesnt like to kill, he believes in peace, but would gladly pay whatever price nessecary to protect his village. Sasuke doesnt care about anyone but himself and is loyal only to himself.

 

I disagree with a lot of these sentiments about Sasuke. The more I think about it the more I begin to wonder if he is truly doing it because of Itachi at all. I don't think it is about honoring Itachi or the injustice his entire family suffered because of the way those in charge feared giving them positions of power.

No, I'm beginning to think Sasuke is pissed off because he hates himself, and he wants to die. I think he is upset with the village not so much because they don't know about Itachi's sacrifice, but because they didn't even bother to tell him how much his brother cared for him and their village which lead him down a path were he killed the one who loved his village so much, and his brother even more.

A part of me thinks Sasuke, knowing about the weakness of his eyes, and his limitations keeps on pushing because he wants someone to kill him and put him out of his misery.

 

I'm trying to argue logical against what you said Oneiros. Problem is that it is so stupid.

He betrayed everyone, he tried to kill everyone, he has insane and stupid reasons for doing so, he betrayed everyone again, and then it goes on.

Even if you are right on his reasoning, it is so bad. You don't try to kill everyone that cares about you because of something they didn't do. You don't kill everyone that cares about you because they did there job. You don't kill everyone that cares about you because you want power.

 

I honestly just want him to be a crazy idiot. So someone WILL kill him.

If it turns out he wants to die... Well, that's pretty much like a 100% assurance that nobody will kill him.

And then he'll get redeemed or something. -_-

 

He hates himself and therefore he goes to the Kage Summit and tries to kill everybody? He hates himself and therefore kills Karin in order to get to Danzo? Why does he dodge when Sakura tries to kill him the chapter before last? Why does he try to kill Sakura twice - because he hates himself and wants to die?

No, I agree with what some people have said...Sasuke's problem is Kishimoto's writing. He could have been written in a much better way while keeping the plot interesting. But instead, we have Kishimoto giving him a ridiculous (in my opinion) justification and even more ridiculous powers and an even further exaggerated growth rate...yeah, Sasuke's issue is the way Kishimoto has written him.

I don't really care though. Naruto and a few other characters are also exaggerated out of proportion. I'm just looking forward to the conclusion of the manga so I can see how the story is resolved.

 

I didn't say it was particularly logical. There have been cases of people like this throughout history. Doc Holiday wanted someone to gun him down not die in a bed due to his illness, yet that is where he ended up. Wanting someone to kill you and letting them kill you are two different things.

I'm just going based off of where I think the writing might be headed. I don't think anyone here would say this is particularly grand writing. Sasuke was supposed to be a genius even before he had the haxx techniques. Now, all we see are his super techniques which aren't really as super as they once were. Earlier in this manga when his brother was using them they were a lot more effective and there doesn't seem to be too much of a gap between the power of the techniques.

When he faced killer bee he cared about his team, and then all of a sudden he just stopped caring. I don't see any logical progression from one step to the next in such a short period of time unless he just stopped caring about everything and just wanted it all to end either through his own death or the death of the people who constantly remind him of his brother's sacrifice.