Oth, I fucking love you.

Really? I wouldn't think it, considering the demon firms and regular demons interacting with the cast, the First Evil and his minions, Glory, easily accessible demon dimensions, the Vampire Courts, and Willow's dalliances with dark magic.

 

It could be epic! if done right.

but if someone writes this please be sure to make it understandable for people who doesn't know about dresdenverse. I read only 1. and 3. book and watched the tv show but thats it. I wouldn't understand a lot of things if jumped around.

 

No! Bad Nuhuh! You just did that so someone would beg you to write it, thus releasing you from said resolution.

To start another story would be folly. Or, to be more precise, it wouldn't be Folly. Now get back in your veal pen and write!

You fool! You foolish fool! You've played right into his hands!

We're doomed... Doomed, I tell you.

 

~rolls~

My diabolical plans have been found out!

This is not over, Warlocke!

 

The impression I get from Dumbledore's character is that his power lies in his unique way of utilizing spells in new and different ways. At least this is the way I always viewed him. He was man who used his vast intelligence and creativity to give him a major edge in battle. I never saw it as some huge imbalance in power.

 

When I say "power" I am referring to nothing other than his ability to use magic. Dumbledore, as you say, has an ability to use magic far above other wizards. As in, no matter how many other wizards you stacked against him, unless one of them was a prodigy too, he'd always come out on top. He's a game breaker. In Dresden terms, Dumbledore is to other wizards as Mab is to a Dresden wizard.

In Dresden you don't get people like this. Sure, some wizards are much more powerful than others. But they're still in the same ballpark. You don't get wizards who could take on the entire senior council at once and win - no matter how clever they are. There are natural constraints to power in Dresden, whereas in HP the only limit appeared to be your mind (and the plot).

 

Minor question - how does Voldemort recover his power base and followers, after? I mean, the Council would just execute all his followers straight off (instead of jailing them, or other such punishment).

 

Wardens kill only those who are caught red-handed; others can weasel out by the virtue of their political connections. Presumably a few of the Elder Council were in Voldemort's pocket, and so escaping "justice" probably wasn't very hard at all. Besides, Death Eaters wear masks and likely use some magical measures to hide their identity, and so it can be assumed that majority of them survive the purge.

 

Total hypothetical:
Both universes exist on the same plane of storytelling, HP magic being something hidden from the rest of the world so well they even began missing magic users. Said magic users find new ways of learning magic, a whole new society is created but since HP wizards did so well in hiding, HP world and Dresden world never really mix. Except with squibs.

Since the flow/use of magic in Dresden users is more restricted, they live longer thus are able to develop their skills better. Somewhere along the lines a Dresden wizard (maybe the gatekeeper or Merlin) figures out how Dresden magic began: through squibs learning new methods. So they create another secret title within white council that involves stealing all baby squibs to train. Since squibs are next to nothing as far as most HP parents are concerned, their disappearance goes mostly unnoticed.

Could easily flow into HP became a squib thanks to Riddle, Dumbledore declares him a squib, everyone's glad Riddle's dead, forgets about him and ships him to old auntie and from there, Dresden wizards steal the little boy.

I mean, couldn't the power he knows not be Dresden magic?

 

I'd rather the story of Harry Potter be transferred into the Dresden Files, primarily because the Denarian Trilogy had both of them running concurrently and I'd like to see something new.

 

Thanks. I... love you too?

Just woke up, and for a second I thought you and CheddarTrek were calling me Oz. I lol'd.

As for Dumbledore, I see no need to make him the be-all, end-all of the White Council, like he was for the HP world; that's what we have the Merlin and the Senior Council for. In this situation, I envision him as being about equal in power and control to any one Senior Council member, which would make the Council even more wary of him, considering how it took them as much as a century longer to reach that level.

That way, we avoid making Dumbledore a "game-breaker", but keep him powerful enough to be a major player in the story.

 

Not like that, you confused little genius.

Makes sense.

Many of the background cast brought in from Harry Potter can easily be changed. Shacklebot, Moody and Tonks for example could be British Wardens, the Malfoys, Blacks and other assorted purebloods would be practictioners that don't have the skills/abilities/powers to be White Council level wizards (Which explains why they tied themselves to Voldemort), Ministry of Magic individuals could be White Council pencil-pushers, and

Heck, Hogsmeade could fufill the same role as it does in Canon: a village for practitoners and wizards.

 

Go write this now. Now

 

My only problem with that is that it makes Dumbledore so un-Dumbledore which would make me more inclined prefer him not being in the story at all.

As far as that goes, how would you handle Dumbledore's phoenix? I would imagine that would definitely give him a major edge given it's powers. It was hinted at in canon that Dumbledore had much more power than he let on, and he was "too noble" to use it against Tom. Perhaps, he had forays into the darker side of magic (or even an unknown type of magic) in his youth? Just tossing out ideas because the idea of Dumbledore just being an equal to someone on the council is a bit....meh.

Although, I might just be sad after reading the epic Dumbledore in Shezza's Denarian series....I miss that Dumbledore. He was the boss. It's sort of like how Joe ruined Harry for me when I read Wastelands. Now, anything less epic just makes me sad.

 

Trust me when I say that you do not want me writing this. I'm an idea guy when I put my mind to it, and something of a grammar nazi, but those two qualities do not a writer make. I would give you examples to prove this point, but I've deleted every fic I've ever written out of sheer, unbearable shame.

On the other hand, if somebody else, somebody with more writing talent than a rock (i.e. anyone but me) wants to take this up, I'm able and more than willing to do some beta work for 'em.

Well, from the books, I kind of get the idea that all of the Senior Council are pretty epic. We've never actually seen one of them completely cut loose before. Even Injun Joe's fight with the Skinwalker, while impressive as all hell, was pretty much completely restricted to shape-shifting, only giving us a small glimpse of his potential power.

With this in mind, anyone writing this would have a lot of freedom when it comes to just how powerful the Council and, by extension, Dumbledore are. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Dumbledore can still be just as epic, even if he isn't the only one at that level of awesome.

Lol, so true. I just read the latest chapters of Wastelands and Sitra Ahra, one after the other. Unfortunately I read Wastelands first, and was just too depressed to finish reading SA. Just-starting-to-realize-his-awesomeness!Harry just cannot compete with Wastelands!Harry (no offense to Nephillim of course; SA is still one of my favorites). I had to wait a full day before I could go back and read it without coming up with any negative comparisons between the two.

 

Wow, it's... it's almost like looking in a mirror.

Is this a Marx Brothers sketch?