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I can't help it--I'm a Snape fan.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Alternator, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. Sarah

    Sarah Daddy Issues

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    I like him too OP but the above is spot on.
     
  2. Silens Cursor

    Silens Cursor The Silencer DLP Supporter

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    Okay, anyone who knows one of my favourite ships already knows I'm biased in this department, but I've got to say, I like Snape. Not as a character - fuck no, he reminds me of the most unreasonable and contemptible fuckskulls who taught me last semester - but for the potential the character has from a writing standpoint.

    Here we have a very three-dimensional character, who cannot solely be defined by one defining characteristic, a very human character. We have a wizard who is one of the most creative, devious, and intelligent characters in canon, who rewrote his own damned textbook. We have a character defined by what one would call a 'bad-working-class' childhood (it's never implied that Tobias Snape was an alcoholic, but there was neglect there) and enough ambition to rise above it. He's willing to play somewhat loosely with what one would deem his morality, but it is revealed in the later books of the series that he's only willing to do this when he is independent. He is a man desperate to be free, but held back by four people: Voldemort, Dumbledore, Lily, and himself.

    Personally, having read plenty of fanfics with Snape in a quasi-main role, it becomes interesting when a good author plays with that dichotomy within Snape: his emotions and passions against the cold hard logic that he clearly possesses. Unfortunately, most of those fics are Lily/Snape, and thus will never be seen here, but I've mentioned numerous times in my own work.

    But then again, look who's talking here. :rolleyes:
     
  3. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    If you could make a few recs in that spirit, I'd be thankful.
     
  4. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box ~ Prestige ~

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    Once again, this. And he is one of the better developed characters in canon, whether you like that development or not (in my opinion, of course.)

    EDIT: @JWH: I know I'll probably get slapped around for suggesting it, but you do get that in the Sacrifices Arc, by Lightning on the Wave. Of course, it's Mentor!Snape, closely followed by Father!Snape, and riddled with slash, but... There's also some of it in Prince of the Dark Kingdom, although more logic than emotion.
     
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  5. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    Right, thanks :)
    Been meaning to give Quality!Slash a try, and this is it, from what I've heard.
     
  6. Silens Cursor

    Silens Cursor The Silencer DLP Supporter

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    JWH: well, I can rec a few things here - they're definitely not typical DLP-material, in the Harry-centric sense, but I'd say they're worth a damn. Keep in mind, though, that they're mostly Lily/Snape, and that's not a popular ship around here.

    With that in mind, I've got three recs for you:

    1. Rewriting the Song - my own Lily/Snape fic, currently stuck at Chapter 16 because of my focus on Renegade Cause at the moment. It's AU after Snape's Worst Memory, where he encounters a vision of himself in the Mirror of Erised, and he convinces himself that it's possible to achieve this vision. Now I've taken a few liberties with canon in this fic, but it's worth a look (and hell, there is still an update for it on the horizon...). My characterization of Snape is similar to his characterization in Renegade Cause, if that's any help to you.

    2. The Wrath of the Half-Blood Prince: the bloodiest Lily/Snape fic I've ever had the pleasure of reading, and one of the best in the genre. Matt Quinn does a great job of framing his characters realistically, and his well-written, superbly-atmospheric combat scenes are some of the best I've ever read. It's also completed, and definitely worth a look.

    3. Into The Fold: I haven't gotten through all of this fic, but I've enjoyed the hell out of what I have seen. Can't give it a massive ringing endorsement because I haven't finished it myself, but from what I remember, it's solid and worthwhile.
     
  7. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    Thanks, mate.

    I was gonna post a Snape/Lily pic, but then I thought getting raped wasn't worth it :p
     
  8. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I still maintain that the best Snape-centric fic ever, and one of the best fanfictions ever, was Soul Play by Snapesforte. Unfortunately, she took it down - completely erased it from the internet, all 200k+ words of it, in late 2007.

    I think the only place it still exists is in the DLP Archives, and even then I don't know how much of it we have. I'm off to check now.
     
  9. Revenant

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    Snape is a douchebag. One of the few competent and intelligent characters in the books yes, but still a petty douchebag.
     
  10. Torak

    Torak Death Eater

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    The Voldemort/Lucis/Snape Interaction is the only thing that is worthwhile about the fic.
     
  11. Salah

    Salah Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    There is no such thing as Quality Slash.
     
  12. Revenant

    Revenant First Year

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    Quoted for the motherfucking truth.
     
  13. Trooper

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    LOL. While I normally tend to agree, I think what JWH was refferring to was a fic where the author concentrates on the plot-line and the story more than he/she does on the Buttsex/pairing.

    Generally, a fic tends to be good when any author does that. Whether it is Het or Slash becomes inconsequential at that point.

    Having said that, yes, I agree 99% of slash stories suck. >_>

    On-topic : A powerfull wizard doesn't necessarily make a likeable wizard. Furthermore I've always disagreed with what JKR calls Love. So, I do not like Snape and I do not find him redeemable. Call it bashing if you will. >_>
     
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  14. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    Doubly so for doubly the motherfucking truth.
     
  15. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    Lol, what trooper said.
     
  16. Trulle

    Trulle Second Year DLP Supporter

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    As I'm drunk at 4:08 PM, I can safely say that without reading anymore than the first post,
    GET THE HELL OUT.
    'nuff said.

    Cheers
     
  17. Salah

    Salah Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    That defeats the point. If slash becomes inconsequential its not a slash story.
     
  18. Trooper

    Trooper Death Eater

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    Drunk posting, unless you're a mod, is really not a good idea.

    ...Not exactly. There are several things( undertones in dialogue, mentions of love/like of the same gender, etc.) that produce strong beeps on the gay/slash radar and yet don't have an effect on the general quality of the story. That is, they're not elaborated upon. Hence inconsequential, yet essentially slash.

    On a side note, I can't believe I took the effort to explain that. >_>
     
  19. JWH

    JWH Unspeakable

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    Again, this.

    Most here at DLP define Slash as any fic with a gay pairing in it.

    Quality!Slash, IMO, would be a story where there is a such a pairing, but remains character or plot-driven, as opposed to the billion slashfics written by fangirls, which revolve entirely around said pairing.
     
  20. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    ...in which case the slash isn't inconsequential, is it?

    I would think that the standard of inconsequential slash would be that the story would be no different, in any respect, were it not slash.

    Which is to say, a gen fic where Harry just happens to be gay instead of straight.
     
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