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Neville

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by One armed boxer, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. One armed boxer

    One armed boxer Second Year

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    Anybody else hate this fucker?

    I know its canon for him to grow into a bad ass, but its been over done in fanfiction. Almost EVERY fic with Harry being betrayed or Harry drifting away from Ron and Hermione has him all of a sudden realize that Neville just needs a bit of confidence and he'll be Harry's right hand man and a better friend that Ron and Hermione ever were.

    I've just grown to hate him intensely and I die a little every time I hear someone write "Nev" in as the only one who believed Harry didn't put his name in the goblet and the love interest for whoever Harry's female sidekick is in the story.

    So come on, I know I can't be the only one who wants this prick to choke on Trevor's cock.
     
  2. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    No, sorry, I don't make a habbit of hating fictional Fan Fiction characters.
     
  3. The Fine Balance

    The Fine Balance Headmaster

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    So you hate him because fanfiction has done him a disservice?

    Ps. Confidence can seriously go a long way in the formative years. For example, if you had a bit of it, you won't have had the urge to make a meaningless little topic in general discussion, to elucidate your 'views' in an pseudo-edgy manner to gain membership into the in crowd. Hmm... then again, a lot of people here have done similar things.
     
  4. Juggler

    Juggler Death Eater DLP Supporter

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    (first post to not cut down the OP)

    Yeah, no. I can usually tell when a fic is going to suck nuts, so I stop before it gets to the point where Neville is introduced(and subsequently given an authoritorial blowjob). I happen to like him, actually. Dean and Seamus seem more like guys you'd drink with than best friends, and Harry doesn't seem the type to hang around with tonnes of people.
     
  5. Seratin

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    Say that to my face and not online, motherfucker and see what happens.

    Seriously though. You're being a bit dramatic about the whole thing. As a community I think DLP has moved on from actively hating fictional characters. Preferring instead to just avoid bad fics with bad characterisation.

    And Neville is a stone cold badass. Fuck you.
     
  6. Alindrome

    Alindrome A bigger, darker mark DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Neville was once just a token comedy relief character. He was there practically to make Snape look even more of a bastard by being the hapless accident-prone type who was treated unfairly, and later as an unwitting plot device for Sirius to scare the little ones. It was clear from the start that Rowling hadn't really considered his character beyond entertainment value.

    In the first book she tries to redeem the character a little by showing the reader 'why he is a Griffindor', when the character was one-dimensional enough to have the single defining trait (clumsiness) and seemed like he ought to have been sorted into Hufflepuff. To be honest, it was a rather throwaway explaination, but it didn't really matter because at the time he was still the token comedy value.

    It was only later in the books when Rowling took on a more serious approach to everything that the character was fleshed-out. I mean, tortured parents? That's the obvious sign of half-arsed character background, even though she made it fit with the rest of the plot. From there Neville is taken in a more serious light, which is what fanon has picked up on a mite too strongly, which is what OP hates: bad fiction, in the end, not the actual character.

    I don't dislike Neville's character. He was unimportant in the beginning, and that transition from comedic element to Real Person was unfortunately bound to leave quite a bit of dissonance, which the fanfiction writers tend to trip over.
     
  7. pdo91

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    You know it.

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  8. Torak

    Torak Death Eater

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    What fuck that shit. Neville goes hard you twit. Now go kick rocks and call it a day.
     
  9. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box ~ Prestige ~

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    Fixed that for you. And of course, most fanfic sucks full stop. More seriously, no, I don't. For the first half of canon he's barely there except for quick jokes, and when he's developed he's a BAMF.
     
  10. Eidolonic

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    This just sort of made me laugh, since that can sort of describe the attitude towards Ginny, sometimes.
     
  11. Blazzano

    Blazzano Unspeakable

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    Actually, I've seen more well-done Neville in fanfiction than crappy Neville - or more accurately, I've rarely read a fic where Neville was the weak link of the story (as opposed to everybody and everything in the fic sucking). I think I'd become tired with a story as you describe, though, with him dumping Ron and Hermione for some sort of superior friend!Neville. Just stop reading them, and the problem is solved.

    And yes, I liked him in canon. True, it took a while for Harry to see the full extent of Neville's courage, but this is Harry we're talking about here. Based on canon, he apparently failed to learn much about the vast majority of students; a social networker he ain't.
     
  12. reggin

    reggin Filthy Half-Breed DLP Supporter

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    Actually I couldn't bring it to myself to like him in canon, he seemed so ... meek in my opinion.
     
  13. Invader.Azula

    Invader.Azula Seventh Year

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    I like Neville. At first I never really paid him any mind. But then in later books he became so badass. Especially in the 7th book. He was a hell of a lot more proactive and intelligent than Harry was.
     
  14. Blaise

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    OP: You can get fucked in the ear. Neville is awesome, and is the only canon character that could make a tentacle rape attack happen.

    Besides, he's the only major male character in the movies that isn't portrayed by a fuckwit:

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    Tell me that motherfucker isn't super dreamy <3<3

    (no homo)
     
  15. Silens Cursor

    Silens Cursor The Silencer DLP Supporter

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    OP, I'm actually going to go out on a limb here and ask: what kind of excruciatingly shitty fanfiction are you reading? If anything, Neville's a character that either gets ignored or becomes awesome. In fact, of all the characters that have been ruined in fanfiction, I don't think I've ever even read a bad Neville Longbottom.

    A bad Dumbledore? You see them everywhere. A bad Ron? Even more so. A bad Hermione? Dude, every single H/Hr fic, but I digress. But a bad Neville? Really?.

    If you're reading fics with a bad Neville, you must be reading some godawful shit. He's not easy to fuck up.

    EDIT: also, post 666 for the fucking win. If my bar of choice hadn't burned down last night, I would be celebrating.
     
  16. Oneiros

    Oneiros Groundskeeper

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    What book were you reading? Didn't he run screaming wearing a sorting hat and flailing a sword around? That's not badass; it's just fucking dumb. Oh, he continued the DA something Harry did in his 5th year even though Neville has never shown any real ability in DADA. Quite honestly, if you asked me if he was brave, I'd say hell yes bordering on stupidity. Now, badass or smart? Not so much.

    The day that these acts top breaking into fucking Gringotts and then busting your way out riding on the back of a motherflippin dragon will be the day I eat my left shoe. Seriously, if that is all Harry did in the last book and the only time he showed up in the entire series that would make him the single most badass character in the books. Sneaking into the ministry, sneaking into Hogwarts, coming back from the dead, etc. all rank pretty high up there too. I hated DH as much as the next guy, but seriously, it was a fucking dragon.

    I like Neville classic. The well meaning bumbling fool who is only really good with plants. I hate it when people try to make him into something different. It's like trying to change Hagrid or Snape. I like them just the way they are thank you very much.
     
  17. reggin

    reggin Filthy Half-Breed DLP Supporter

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    Actually he looks like he likes cawks.

    shitty fanfiction
    Coming from a guy that is Lily/Snape shipper, I cannot take you seriously.
     
  18. Paimon

    Paimon That fucking cat

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    Agreed.

    Making Neville into some huge bad ass simply because he tends to get fucked over is beyond dumb.

    Neville is not a mini-Harry. And he's not really relevant at all.
     
  19. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Somebody has a Dark Lord Cullen hangover...

    And yeah, I can see why someone would hate Neville that way, but it just isn't really worth it. I haven't even thought about him as much as I do about most other characters with equivalent screen time. Any fics which make him Harry's new best friend... Well, I tend to come across more where he is Ron's lackey, along with Dean usually, and the three of them are the Gryffindor Malfoys. That can get annoying, but it's not really the characters fault. He is just... uninteresting.

    In the seventh book, he does get a little more interesting, but meh, I didn't really read that book more than once, so...
     
  20. iLost

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    I liked him. (Bandwagon.) He's the bumbling fool with an overprotective and domineering grandmother, whose parents are in the loony bin. I think what made him awesome was the traits of being nervous and afraid, only finding courage at rare times.

    The Neville that emerged in Book 7 may have been what she was developing his character into, but I don't think she pulled it off right. I missed the nervous wreck. Just my opinion, though.

    As to hating him based on fanfiction? Unlike some still on this site, I don't grow to hate a character (Hermione anyone?) based on bad fanfiction, I hate a bad characterization. Example, many justify their dislike of Ginny based on the books. I concur with that.

    Save, for me, the rest of the characters were given some justice.

    So, to hate any character based on reading too much fanfiction is absurd. Those characterizations are just bad reflections of the one in cannon.(Wonder if anyone will catch that.) Solution, keep your bias and ignore those fanfics, or continue to read them and in turn bitch about the character; though it would be more logical to bitch about the author's poor handling of him.
     
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