okay, I know the whole electricity doesn't work with magic
what about gas? I mean really, a lot of guns just plain don't use electricity
they use Gas or other chemistry to make them work
and fan fiction does not use this
the only ones who do are so stupid you feel your I.Q. dropping or you have them deserted with no hope of adoption
both are not very bright futures

P.S. does anyone know any good fan fiction works...
I have read many but I end up forgetting them when I want to re-read them and ff.net deletes all the ones that have any fluff and are actually good (I prefer a little fluff in mine) course the way my fan girl sister is going they never delete the slash ones (biased)
correct me if I am wrong on any issue (not that you will have a issue with that)

 

Um....there are lots of Muggles vs Wizards threads here and it was a contentious issue for a while before we decided in the end that nobody really gave a fuck about it. Personally, I believe that wizards would 'pwn' muggles (I'm a gamer, so I'm totally allowed to use that term'. Therefore, when recommending stories to you I suggest that you use the Fanfiction.net Search bar and type in the word 'FAIL!'.

You'll probably find something under there.


P.S- Bad grammar as a little bad. You might want to refine your typing technique or at least read over your posts. We have some pretty high standards here.

P.S.S- Welcome to DLP?

 

I can feel my intelligence dropping from trying to read your post. Please learn some decent grammar and for the love of fuck, capitalize the beginnings of your sentences. Punctuation is another thing you need to work on.

This thread here covers most of your issues already. If you can clean up your posts a bit, I don't think anybody will scream "NECRO!!!1!!!" too loudly.

 

Also, any fic that uses "EM-shielding" to get around electricity-magic interactions is instafail.

 

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I don't mind whatever a fic does, as long as it's clear that magic >>> muggle technology.

 

It depends how guns are used. I'd like to think I mostly manage to pull it off.

 

Two things:

Clearly, electricity does work around magic. Diagon Alley is right in the middle of London and doesn't mess anything up. Sometimes magic may mess up technology, but it appears to be very rare.

Secondly, in the vent of this happening, my personal theory for it is not that there is some physical causal process behind it (e.g. magic blocks electricity, or something like that), but rather it's a matter of "Muggle" and "magic" being diametrically opposed thematically/conceptually. Simply speaking, the "Muggleness" of certain items cannot stand to be in the presence of magic.

 

Was that a request for stories featuring guns, or generally good fics? If it's the former, then you could try Marquis Black, Enembee's the Skitterleap (see his sig), or To Children Ardent For Some Desperate Glory, which has Arthur Weasley wielding a machine gun.

If the latter, then I suggest you try here. There's quite a long list.

As for why guns aren't used more often...leaving aside the issue of whether they'd actually work, there's then the question of whether shield spells would work against bullets or not. If they do, then guns are useless, so why use them. If they don't, then you get a very short story, as Harry just stands there mowing people down.

 

I think the OP was looking for good stories in generall and for that I recommend the library (lol).

Having guns in stories is fine but most of the time the technology completely takes over the story which is annoying.

 

Technology in fanfiction has its uses but it runs into an issue of not fitting it. If the story is about tech then it tends to work. But Harry carrying a shotgun, just because is generally a waste. Some stories suck with muggle tech, but honestly they would have sucked without it as well.

 

I had a theory about magic and muggle tech awhile back. Went a bit something like this:

Magic is shown to be temperamental in nature (i.e. Hogwarts staircases); Muggle tech is exactly the opposite. Like two forces of nature, order and chaos, one could assume they'd mix like oil and water.

Take for instance the simple handgun. Sure would be nice if you could use the a magical cheat code and give yourself limitless ammo. This is where, I think, the dangerous side of magic's temperamental nature could come into play. If magic is essentially "copying" your bullets, what if the firing pin striking the primer on your first round strikes the firing pin on every round? Your mag (or cylinder) explodes and you can say goodbye to your hand (or index finger).

On the other hand, being the force of nature that it is, magic might simply not effect things which are unnatural (plastics). Also on the other hand, plastics might just be combustive (made with petroleum).

Rationalizing these things is of course completely AU. It just makes sense to me given the laws the ministry has enacted.

My two cents *shrug*.

 

I think guns would cause wizards some serious problems. Unless a shooter was a mile away, their brain would be splattered before they could raise their wand. Confundus-type charms and wards would effect muggle shooters, and would probably make them obsolete, but those would mainly protect stationary targets, rather than individuals.

As for tech in the potter-verse, I still like Invincible Technomage for combining magic and tech in a kickass way. Also, Canoncansodoff's epic Harmione fic does a pretty decent job, even if it does seem to plod on interminably. Enembee's stuff is pretty seamless and definitely deserves top billing.

 

Originally I conceived of an idea, like many of you here have thought, that something which uses order and logic cannot function in an environment where things are illogical, like magic. I think the idea will make it into my fic and I've written a scene that deals with it because it works with the plot.

With things such as Flame Freezing Charms, I suppose there could be a Charm which prevents explosions which would render guns ineffective. In GOF, we saw a gaseous field in which people would become disoriented, how could a muggle get out of that? Wizards can simply Disillusion themselves, perhaps it could mask light and heat emanation which would rule out camera's/thermal goggles which I have seen some fics use. Maybe a wizard could Vanish all the gunpowder in an area as well?

The way I see it though
Dumbledore/Voldemort(WTFPWN)->Aurors/Death Eaters(PWNAGE)->Common Wizard Population(Minor PWN)->Young Wizarding Childern/Muggles

The best fic which is sadly incomplete and deals with this issue is In Light of Silver Memories and Dumbledore states clearly why Wizards->Muggles.

 

I disagree, in part, with this statement. I'm not going to make an A is better than B argument, because I tend to think in more realistic shades of gray. I also agree with keeping muggle and magical tech from mixing, but for the entirely different reasons I have already stated above.

Wizards and muggles come from two very divergent realms of thinking. At the risk of sounding like Mordin Solus: limitations drive progress. Sure, wizards wield the forces of creation and destruction, but even JKR (not the most well-reasoned author) painted their society as mostly stagnant and ignorant. Does their ability to manifest change in the fabric of reality make them perfect; make them god?

Pride was Achillies' true heel...

The wizarding society I saw in JKR's books was a rather sad thing and a pale shadow of what it could have been. They take for granted things muggles have struggled centuries to achieve but, in the end, who is the richer for it? There seems to always be a rich vein of fiction which clings to the belief that "old magic" is far stronger than modern magic, yet this magic is — for some reason — highly obscure and mostly forgotten.

I think that magic and muggle-tech can get along fine in a story. Many of the stories that are written with Magic + Tech are nothing more than vehicles pushing an idea that sounded "so fukkin' ossim" in the writer's head (where it should have stayed). Personally, I wouldn't mind Harry carrying a gun around. It makes perfect sense to me to open a can of supersonic hot-lead whupass before whipping out the god-stick... if only because it's so much faster.

Also? Wizards have NOTHING as cool as Internets, brah.

 

On the topic of guns again , I doubt they would be at all effective in a time of war or conflict. I don't know exactly how Fred and George made their shield garments, but if two boys straight out of school (regardless of talent) could enchant that many hats/shoes/cloaks to be resistant to damage/curses them someone must be able to come up with a Holtzman-type shield that blocks out fast moving objects. Then you can walk around to your hearts content without worrying about keeping a shield charm up.