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Partially Kissed Hero by Perfect Lionheart - T

Discussion in 'Trash Bin' started by nonjon, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. deyas

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    I think I got up to the part where they were going to go back in time for the queen before I just gave up. I give it a 1.5/5 mostly for some of the elements in this story that I haven't seen before.
     
  2. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Personally, I think it's many of the elements that we haven't seen before that make up a large part of the problem.
     
  3. CaffeineAddict

    CaffeineAddict Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    I would have to agree here. Some of the plot devices that were included are so out there as to just exacerbate the already prevalent issues with the story. One "out there" idea can make a good story. The number included by the author just make the thing generally unreadable.
     
  4. Walrus

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    It's finals week and so in my bid to procrastinate, I read the entire thing in a single sitting. In a word: bizarre. How on earth did it manage to garner so many reviews? Has anyone else managed to read all 91 chapters?

    Pros
    - I liked exposition on the economics of the wizarding world. That's often either overlooked or poorly done. I'd give it 2/5 for that.
    - A lot of original ideas in here, maybe a few too many but points for trying
    - Cartoon!Dumbledore was hilarious if you're reading this for crack value and not as a serious fic. I needed the laugh.

    Cons
    - This fic is just too sprawling. There are too many ideas and it goes into random territory in the last third. Where's the plot?
    - The Alice in Wonderland stuff is absolutely cringeworthy, and the meeting with the Queen even more so. Same goes for the space stuff. It might be original but some things haven't been written for a reason.
    - The fairy stuff became tiresome very quickly.
    - The Draca episode was squicky and morally repugnant. That it seems to have become an essential plot element is just wrong.
    - Stylistically, it would be much better if the thousands of words on things such as the history of Beauxbatons were removed. It's boring, it disrupts the flow, and it adds nothing to the plot.

    Overall, this was a 2.5/5. It's definitely one that you'd have to file into the 'Guilty Pleasures' category though.
     
  5. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    :eek:

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  6. Wingthesword

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    I have also read all 91 chapters, it's interesting, and yeah it would be better if he learned how to trim down the fic a bit. He also repeats things, on the one hand this is good because with that many things going on it would hard to keep up, but if you repeat things too much it gets annoying.
     
  7. IdSayWhyNot

    IdSayWhyNot Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    I give the author, not the story, a 5/5 rating. You really have to be a creative bastard to write chapter after chapter without the faintest idea of a plot-line, and still come up with 91 of them and get 10.000+ reviews.

    Or he may just be a lucky man.
     
  8. CaffeineAddict

    CaffeineAddict Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    A rampant imagination and a distinct lack if sense or coherence could also have been the reason he managed to write that much drivel. As for the 10 000+ reviews, given what the majority of the ff.net community is like... that's not saying a whole lot :D.
     
  9. Perspicacity

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    I disagree. If you don't give a whit about quality or internal consistency, it's quite easy to churn out large volumes of crap, as anyone who has completed NaNoWriMo can attest. And, as mentioned by the prior poster, review counts, while generally correlated with quality, can be misleading (case in point: My Immortal).

    Art is an author's picking and choosing from the thousand story ideas he has into prose that's tight and polished and shines like a gem, not a wet turd. Simply slamming those thousand ideas together (and the next five hundred he thought up on the fly as he wrote) into a set of chapters bound by a common title isn't good writing.
     
  10. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    A better summary of this fic I have not heard. Props to Pers for saying it like only he can.
     
  11. Schrodinger

    Schrodinger Muggle ~ Prestige ~

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    This fic, is, essentially, roscharch's blot's random idea fic as written by a sociopath and with a semblance of a plot somewhere in there.
     
  12. iLost

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    Ah yes, but Pers, you seem to take for granted your imagination. Not everyone can come up with a thousand and one plot-lines while taking a shit.
     
  13. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I should give everyone access to my "Ideas and shit" folder on AFC. Lots of story concepts there (e.g. my epic Harry/Winky Matrix crossover) desperately need to be written.
     
  14. IdSayWhyNot

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    I think you overestimate the imagination of the average folk.

    This story is clearly not good writing, not even a guilty pleasure for me. But I'll give it to the bastard; he's certainly got ideas and never runs out of them.

    It's one thing to have many ideas for different stories. This is different. His billions of ideas and little pieces of bullshit are connected by a plot-line - however crappy and filmsy it is. You just know he wrote one chapter, saw how people reacted, and tried to write the next, with no idea where he was taking this. But he did that for 91 chapter and got 10.000+ reviews... Not bad, he certainly knows how to play to the crowd.
     
  15. iLost

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    I think you and Warlocke both should, considering how often he goes on about the half-written 'shit' he puts to paper.

    I think I should contribute to the thread.

    It's all been said before. Lots of ideas with no real rhyme or reason. But that was not why I stopped reading it. I loved the masturbation of his imagination at work, but the writing style was WAY to irksome. I don't know if it were the condescending tone he used, like a teacher gloating over an ignorant student, or his constant use of the passive voice. Or maybe only his ideas were interesting and not his writing style. It was mundane and circular.

    I could go on.

    5/5 for the ideas.

    1/5 for execution.

    Solid 3/5 from me.
     
  16. Gipsyspider

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    Oh dear god! This fic's still alive? :confused: How?

    When I first read chapter one, I saw some potential, however chapter two died a horrible and morbid death=fail!
     
  17. aaltwal

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    I think you're missing the point that Pers was trying to say. You're too :O_O: on his 10k reviews.

    You gave him a 5/5 for his thousands of random and shitty ideas and his ability to string them up into a absurd and weak plot.

    That's actually pathetic. Any author, with a ridiculous amount of free time can accomplish it. The 10k reviews you're so impressed about is nothing, compared to the reviews slash stories accumulates. He got lucky, since majority of readers and fans judge stories by the number of reviews, and this just causes his review count to go higher with time. He got a following, from the HP crowd and the Naruto crowd.


    It would be more impressive if he used these ideas of his to churn out properly written stories that actually tells a tale, and not pack them into one sociopath's wet dream and uses it to vent his emotions and spread his beliefs and ideals.
     
  18. IdSayWhyNot

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    Can't deny that. It just blows me away.


    But no, I didn't miss his point. I'm just saying that if he got 10k+ reviews he did something right by playing to the masses, either consciously or not. It's the difference between having a great product yet not being able to sell it, and having a piece of shit and making millions.

    It's the kind of thing I study in Marketing. It doesn't matter what you sell, what's important is how the public sees your product. Some people would rather be underpaid artists while others play to the market.

    If you were to see PKH by Perfect Lionheart in a commercial context, you could say he grabbed a piece of shit, painted it gold and sold it to Elton John for earings.

    That's it. I find it funny how the best pics are routinely outshone by these things.
     
  19. Militis

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    I can't believe this thing is almost up to 100 chapters...Jesus.
     
  20. Portus

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    This fic is behind the curve as far as long-in-the-tooth trainwrecks go. As proof, I present Harry Potter and the Story by Dad which, at 104 chapters, has to be the most drawn-out shit around. I kept this on my "To Read" list for a long time, even though I had a bad feeling about its OCs and whatnot.

    I skimmed one of the chapters in the 90s and the only thing that seemed to happen was Scrimgeour attending his granddaughter's dance recital or some shit. No really...

    Still, being started in December '06 and updated in July 2010? The guy has some stick-with-it-ness.
     
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