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Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. Necrule Paen

    Necrule Paen DLP Elite DLP Supporter

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    Oh, I see your confusion.

    Kabutomaru showed up quite a while after Nagato died. And when Madara heard about Nagato's death he immediately started talking about Sasuke being Nagato's replacement in the plan.

    It would have been clearer if I had "which made Sasuke" instead of "makes Sasuke"
     
  2. Solomon

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    Ahhh, okay then. Thank you for clarifying, then.
     
  3. jwlk

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    I'm sure he'd keep Sasuke around anyway, considering Sasuke wants to get rid of Konoha, it would save Madara (hope I spelled that right) from doing it himself.

    Anyway, I just have a question about this whole re-telling of the Kyuubi attack. If this is Kushina telling Naruto this, and I think she is unless I missed something, then how does she know of the things that happened that she wasn't there for. For example, all the Third Hokage scene's, and the battle with Madara. Maybe I missed something explaining that, but I'm not sure.
     
  4. Jon

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    ...It's like the Pendulum arc from Bleach.
     
  5. Howdy

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    The details are for us, the readers, who want to know more about Minato vs. Madara and what happened on Naruto's birthday.

    Knowing that Minato made Madara and Kyuubi his sons won't help Naruto in any way.

    Also, I like the random "jinchuuriki can't use this uber death seal" thrown in there. Guess Naruto won't be sacrificing himself to take out the big bad after all.
     
  6. Chengar Qordath

    Chengar Qordath The Final Pony ~ Prestige ~

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    Well, it's not completely random; if a jinchuriki could use the seal then it would have made more sense to have Kushina do the sealing since she was dying anyway, and that way Naruto would still have one parent left. I have to agree though; anything that reduces the odds of Naruto making a heroic sacrifice is a good thing.

    Also, it is nice to get confirmation from Kishimoto about what happens to a tailed beast when its jinchuriki dies. Some of the random flashback details are interesting too. Fun continuity note; Kishimoto does a near-perfect reproduction of a couple panels from the first issue (Iruka being taken away from the battleground).
     
  7. Clerith

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    I liked that Kyuubi was getting owned. This is nothing like that one-sided 'Kyuubi destroys part of Konoha, before Yondaime shows up and seals it into Naruto' crap we always see in fanfiction.
     
  8. Kardikek

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    I wouldn't call it owned but no, it's made abundantly clear that while extremely powerful, bijuus don't automatically curbstomp everything and everyone as implied at the beginning of the series.

    Somehow the ninjas atleast got Kyuubi out of the city before Minato hax teleported them somewhere else.
     
  9. Tylendel

    Tylendel Seventh Year

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    I do not think that Madara need someone who can ressurect Minato to get the other half of the Fox chakra. From what Kushina said, the Fox "death" is only temporary, he can reform himself given time (http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/33928369/14).

    And the "Key" was created to allow Naruto to access the half of the Foc chakra not sealed inside him, so he absorbed all the nine-tails chakra.
     
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  10. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The fox's death is temporary if Kushina sealed it and took it with her. Which is why Minato used a better seal that jinchuriki can't use to make sure that that didn't happen.
     
  11. Kthr

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    One thing that annoyed me was seeing Kakashi, who was already a jounin by then, kept back from helping the village by some older ninja. Sure, wasting people lives are one thing, but if Iruka was out there, the least they could be doing is helping getting people to safety.
     
  12. Ched

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    Yeah, that did seem odd. Young or not Kakashi was definately of rank to be doing something other than standing around.
     
  13. Aekiel

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    I'm betting that was a just in case scenario in action, so that if worst came to worst and the Kyuubi was let loose to attack Konoha again (and wins), there would still be some ninja around to rebuild afterwards.
     
  14. Necrule Paen

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    Not worried about Naruto at all, plenty of alternative sources for it. It is the more obscure manga I enjoyed on that site that I will miss.
     
  15. Chaoticblues

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    Yeah, especially since they will almost certainly never see an english release.
     
  16. Nemrut

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    This chapter was both, good and bad. Good because we saw The Fourth Hokage in action. I had actually regained respect for Minato in this chapter, with the way he was kicking ass all over the place, pimpslapped Madara so hard that he lost control over the nine tails like nothing, teleported the kyuubi, helped suppressing it like nothing and had actually a good idea regarding the fox.

    THEN, by listening to Kushina's final words, he totally took the wrong way and had the absolute braindead idea of sacrificing himself for no fucking reason! Dude, don't let your child alone! Don't leave him without parents! You know Konoha is a synonym for incompetence and you trust THEM with your child?

    Let Kushina "kill" the kyuubi for some time, raise Naruto yourself, train him if you believe. Better yet, don't leave it to your son! Do it yourself you fucking moron! You are stronger than Madara, he couldn't even touch you and he was prepared to fight you >_>D

    The "balance" doesn't matter one whit. The three tails was free at one point and it didn't hurt anyone. God, was that stupid. Worst parent and Kage ever. He was strong, don't get me wrong, definitely one of the strongest but god was he stupid.

    This "yeah, I could defeat Madara and all that but I really don't want to do this so I should better kill myself..."

    Have I understood something wrong here? Was there any reason for Minato to take this course, other than some half-assed prophecy that Jiraya mentioned once ,while eating, in a lackluster way?

    Either dumbest person ever or really bad writing.
     
  17. Clerith

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    Kishimoto.

    Hey, you need some explanation as to how Kyuubi got sealed inside Naruto, and maybe Kishimoto likes young, orphaned boys or something.
     
  18. Nemrut

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    There are certainly a lot of them >_> It is just sad. Before, we had a good reason for Minato to seal the fox. As far as we knew, it was the only way of dealing with the Kyuubi. And now we know there was more than one way, one that wouldn't have cost Minato's life and he just did it out of stupid reasons. Why go out of your way to make your epic, badass character look incredibly retarded?
     
  19. ChaosGuy

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    Wasn't the point of Naruto's seal is that it killed the Kyuubi when Naruto died. I figured that the death in this case is permanent while Kushina's method is temporary. Isn't that the reason that Kyuubi did its best to keep Naruto alive in the first place, or was the retconned out?
     
  20. Solomon

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    No, you're right. That and the fact that Konoha wouldn't otherwise have a Jinchuuriki is just asking for trouble. Minato made the right choice for the village and, hell, the world (what with the whole Madara thing).

    It just doesn't seem that way at first glance.
     
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