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Almost Recommendable Volume the Third

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Antivash, Aug 11, 2010.

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  1. silverlasso

    silverlasso Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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  2. Dungbomb

    Dungbomb First Year

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    Tales of a Wanderer » reviews
    HPLOTR. Harry was in an alien world, surrounded by talking trees and the legend of the Rings. There's a war going on and he's determined to stay out of it, until it drags him in. Forget about the old world of Hogwarts and Voldemort, he has to survive.
    Crossover - Harry Potter & Lord of the Rings - Rated: T - English - Adventure/Drama - Chapters: 6 - Words: 58,956 - Reviews: 378 - Updated: 8-28-10 - Published: 9-22-09 - Harry P. - Complete


    This is one of those stories that could be great.

    Pros
    1. There is no H/L, no H/A, no H/Hobbits, no H/anyone in this fic. No paring which means no fan girl/boy crap

    2. It takes a few years before Harry even meets anyone from the fellowship. He is placed in as a member but even he thinks its stupid and leaves the first chance he gets to follow his own path.

    3. New type of magic that I haven't seen used before and its not the automatic instant super wizard type. He is powerful, especially to those that used to Gandalf but see his different type of magic, but he has his limits and pays the price the few times for overextends himself.

    Cons
    1. The way Harry arrives in Middle Earth is beyond WTF because it just doesn't exist. He goes to sleep at Private Drive and wakes up in Fangorn Forest.

    2. The story jumps around without any scene breaks and takes you a few seconds to realize that a certain amount of time has passed between two paragraphs.

    3. Harry bitching to himself that he's tired of everyone trying to tell him what to do with his life and then actually letting others tell him what to do with his life...well, I guess that could be described as cannon Harry.

    I'm sure you guys will find more +'s and -'s than that so I'll leave it to you. Overall a pretty good read but like I said, with a rewrite from a good author this could be a great story.
     
  3. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box ~ Prestige ~

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    Sally-Anne Perks updated again, and there was actually a pretty decent development. Best chapter yet, imo, although the dialogue style still bugs me immensely.
     
  4. NoxedSalvation

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    Title: Survivors
    Author: Dyce
    Pairing: Hermione/Snape
    Rating: M
    Genre: Romance

    Story Summary: After the war is over, lives must be rebuilt. Hermione sets out to help someone who nobody else will, and winds up helping herself as well.

    Survivors

    My Review: I`m a sucker for good romance fics, as my recs in the "other fandom" review section show. This one falls under that category. The author has worked hard on the characterization- !SurvivingSnape is still a git, Hermione a well meaning know-it-all and !CanonHarry (at least in the beginning) a smug, self-righteous ass. The romance is developed very slowly, there is a whole very tense and brilliantly constructed court scene to redeem Snape, and the end is satisfying.

    4/5
     
  5. Mutt

    Mutt High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Do not want.
     
  6. NoxedSalvation

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    You'll never know what you missed.
     
  7. gamingguru

    gamingguru Fourth Year

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    I find your rec choice disturbing.
     
  8. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Gave it a read. Jadedmutt, you're missing nothing.
     
  9. NoxedSalvation

    NoxedSalvation Temporarily Banhammered

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    I`m aware that this ship isn`t liked around here, that`s why I put it in the "almost recommendable" thread. But nonetheless, it would be nice if you could write why you thought this was rubbish after actually reading some of it.
     
  10. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    I think I've asked this before, but what's with your use of a grave accent in place of an apostrophe? It's "I'm," not "I`m."
     
  11. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Basically, writing itself is below average, at times outright bad. The author is very lazy with the exposition in setting up the scenario she wants.

    Very inspiring beginning that isn't written in 80 or 90 percent of all the total stories in the HP fandom.

    So far so good.

    Except the author gives no justification or insight into Hermione's thought process about why she cares. Everyone assumes he's withdrawn into isolation, which is in-character for Snape, there's no problem.

    It's not only not DLP's fare, it's also not even Hermione/Snape fan fare.

    Note the epic fail attempt at sophisticated, scathing exchange of insults. XD

    She went to the effort of talking on his behalf to get him out of Azkaban? :/

    This character dynamic is the kind between two characters on very familiar (albeit hostile) terms. It's either a characterization breakdown or a failure in presenting backstory.

    Then it just goes to outright ridiculous not-even-a-pretense-of-rationale writing:

    Lol.

    Seriously? Don't defend to the story by saying it's DLP's shortsightedness. The problem's on the author's end, it's bad for basic reasons of writing quality and characterization.

    I actually kind of suspect this is a kind of Sree's Tradition of Red trap-parody for the Hermione/Snape genre from the writing.

    TLRD: It's not in the almost recommended thread (it's too bad even for that) because of the pairing, it's because the writer is that inane with "plot" contrivances and a butchered Hermione, on top of what is already bland, fifth-grader writing.

    Granted, jadedmutt didn't even give it the benefit of the doubt, but she turned out to have made the right decision anyway.
     
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  12. Phantom of the Library

    Phantom of the Library Unspeakable

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    I think he's using a bilingual keyboard or something. There's a command that changes a bunch of the keys into other crap. It changes the apostrophe into the grave accent, and he may have just hit the command by accident (I used to do that all the time) or simply left it on by accident.
     
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    This. I`m afraid it takes a while to get used to other keyboards.
     
  14. Rin

    Rin Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter

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    I see. Weird. Well, hopefully, you'll find the right key eventually.
     
  15. NoxedSalvation

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    I don't know what you consider "average", but in my book this is quite accaptable writing. Not brilliant, but good enough to keep me in the flow of the story.

    My sarcasm- meter nearly exploded. :rolleyes: I'd like to see those 80% of stories with !DeadRon and !AmputatedHarry though.

    It's ok to skim a text if you are pretty sure you wont like it anyway, but you shouldn't give false statements about the content.

    Granted, those aren't clear cut motives, but they fit Hermione and her meticulous personality to a T.

    Really? A few hundred pleased Hermione/Snape shippers in the review section for this story indicate otherwise.

    Snape isn't in his best form here, as the context shows.

    What? They are calling each other "Professor" and "Miss Granger" here and Hermione makes clear that she is at Spinners End because she is grateful for Snapes work as a spy. Where is the "lack of backstory" and the "familiarity"?

    You are quote mining. Here is the quote in context:

    To call this passage "outright ridiculous not-even-a-pretense-of-rationale writing" is in itself a preposterous contortion of reality.



    I put this story into the "almost recommendable" thread because people like jademut would have a field day ripping me apart for posting it in "For review". Not because the quality is bad, but because they don't like the ship. There are tons of stories in the recycling bin that are generally worse than this at its weakest points.

    Nope, Dyce was quite serious about it. And some of her other stuff was appreciated here on DLP:

    http://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=11879&highlight=Dyce
     
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  16. Sesc

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    Er. What the fuck are you doing? o_O
     
  17. Juggler

    Juggler Death Eater DLP Supporter

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    Fucking NO. I normally give odd ships a bit of a chance when they're posted on DLP, because I expect good things from the members. However, from both Andro's and your quotes, I can tell that this story is below-average writing quality, with non-dynamic characters (Hermione seems to have reverted back to a first year, from the quotes), and the romance is both badly concealed and painful to read, even secondhand.

    Back to something I think matters; Hermione doesn't care that Snape 'saved' Harry, Ron and her from Lupin. Not only that, but they still would've been mauled if Sirius hadn't transformed to distract him(although this may just be my memory of the movie kicking in).

    Hermione hasn't been the sort to care about every single witch and wizard. She never was, but if a better author had written it, it could have looked like character development.

    Hermione never looked up to Snape, or saw him as strong, ever since he made fun of Harry over nothing. Maybe if the author had read past the ship, she/he could've decided to find real reasons for how it would work(although, with a ship like this, stretching things is required).

    Reread book seven and tell me that Hermione is meticulous. While some on DLP may consider book seven to have been the devil's ballsweat, I thought that it was very good towards character development. Harry stopped being quite so whiny and got shit done, Ron got the hell over himself, Hermione learned to think on her feet. Sure, Hermione was meticulous as a second year, but this story is based after the war. I see no reason for her to be such a bitch.

    This scene is a good example for why not to read this story. It has an over-venemous Snape, who is oddly submissive, as well as a dominant Hermione who bosses her own goddamn superiors around in their own homes. Throw in a bit of gratuitous angst that has the romantic foreshadowing of a flaming boulder, and you have another romance fic that sinks with its ship.

    It's above average quality, if you consider average quality to refer to the metric tonnes of garbage that FFnet is host to. Thus, it earns a 2/5 from me, which I deem to be unreadable.
     
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  18. sirius009

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    Title: "The Lion Tamer"
    Author: munkeymaniac
    Summary: Daphne likes Harry, and decides she wants to get to know him. Harry is receptive to her advances. Little do they know of how their blossoming relationship will change the course of fate.
    Pairing: H/Daphne
    Link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6311215/1/The_Lion_Tamer

    Alright this is the newest one from "MunkeyManiac" (same fucker who wrote the betrothal contract). The story is incredibly simple; after the graveyard, Daphne says that she wants to get to know him. After that everything is very typical. Features Bigoted!Ron, Hr/Neville, and that is literally it plot wise, it soosely follows canon, and so far there hasn't been anything very original, however, if you're like me and are a sucker for H/Daphne, it can kill an hour or two.
    3/5
     
  19. Warlocke

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    Can you guarantee that? Because I find myself definitely not wanting to know.
     
  20. Silens Cursor

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    Agreed. I find myself rather lacking in will to give Hermione/Snape the time of day, probably because it's already been quite well-established that Snape loved Lily. Yeah, he wouldn't give Hermione the fucking time of day, let alone let her be the dominant one in the relationship.

    The one time I saw a Hermione/Snape fic that managed to be passable (and only just barely, by my standards) was one that had a manipulative!Snape completely feigning interest so that a desperate Hermione, who had been abandoned by Ron earlier in this story. It eventually gets extremely icky, as Hermione had daddy issues in the story (apparently she had an 'exterior locus of identity' or some psych bullshit) derived from her desire to prove herself to others, and Snape's just stringing her alone to get information on Harry and to fuck with her head for sheer whimsy.

    Frankly, it was the only way the ship worked, and not very well at that.
     
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