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Plot Bunny Thread

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Apr 17, 2009.

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  1. b0b3rt

    b0b3rt Backtraced

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    I like the original idea (finding the stone in first year) a lot more then any listed afterward.
     
  2. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    *shrug* better here then in a fic somewhere.
     
  3. Kravot

    Kravot Fourth Year

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    I have a plot bunny I would be glad to see worked into a fic. If Dumbledore searched for the Horcruxes before Harry came to Hogwarts, he would have obtained all of the Deathly Hallows. What would be the effects of MasterofDeath!Dumbledore on the story?
     
  4. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    He'd be dead.

    (Curse on the Resurrection Stone Horcrux would have killed him within a year of his acquiring it, assuming that Snape could stall it as canon).

    Also, even if he survived: the effect on the story would be that it would be a lot simpler. With all the Horcruxes destroyed, only Harry is keeping Voldemort tied to the Earth. If Harry dies before Voldemort gains a body, Voldemort dies. If Harry dies some other time, Voldemort becomes mortal.

    Though Nagini-horcrux might be an issue, since he made that after his resurrection.

    Dumbledore's best plan would be to just kill Harry before he gets to Hogwarts, then blame it on the Dursleys. Sucks for Harry, but oh well.

    All that said, I'm not sure how likely it is that Dumbledore would be able to get his hands on the Diary horcrux, or the locket. Nor the Diadem, really, since he didn't know of the Room of Requirement. The only horcrux just lying around in a place easy to access is the Gaunt ring.

    Finally, with regards to what effect there would be on Dumbledore if he had all three hallows: likely none. I think canon is fairly clear that the story of the Three Brothers is a myth and that they're just three quite powerful - if flawed - magical artefacts. "Master of Death" is a symbolic title, and pretty much only refers to the rejection of the idea that death is to be avoided.

    (That said, it's fanfiction, so what the hell. Do what you like.)
     
  5. Tenages

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    I don't know that its all that clear. I think you could also use canon to make a case that there's some effect to uniting all the Hallows greater than just having a bunch of powerful objects.

    Dumbledore makes a point about going on in the Kings Cross scene that he wasn't worthy of uniting the Hallows, how Harry was one of the few who could do it and not be tempted. If they're just powerful objects than why can't Dumbledore handle uniting them? Dumbledore already had more power than any other wizard and had the Elder Wand. Why couldn't he handle adding a ring that lets you see the dead and an invisibility cloak unless uniting the 3 Hallows has some sort of other effect?

    That said he could easily just be blowing smoke up Harry's butt again.
     
  6. Anarchy

    Anarchy Half-Blood Prince DLP Supporter

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    The Deathly Hallows

    Resurrection Stone Small Charm
    Required level: 80
    +1 all skills
    +10-20 all attributes (varies)
    Slain Monsters Rest in Peace
    50% chance to resurrect as Fallen
    +10% faster cast rate (2 items)


    Elder Wand Tomb Wand
    One-Hand Damage: 10 To 22 (16 Avg)
    Required Level: 76
    Required Strength: 25
    Durability: 15
    Weapon Speed: Very Fast
    +50% Damage To Undead
    +2 To All Skills
    60% Faster Cast Rate
    Increase Maximum Mana 10%
    All Resistances +25
    +40 To Life
    Attacker Takes Damage of 25
    50% better chance to find Magic Items (2 items)


    Cloak of Invisibility Dusk Shroud
    Defense: 1083-1401 (varies)(Base Defense: 361-467)
    Required Level: 75
    Required Strength: 77
    Durability: 20
    +150% Enhanced Defense
    +1 To All Skills
    30% Faster Cast Rate
    Damage reduced by 10-15% (varies)
    All Resistances +30-45 (varies)
    Light Radius reduced by 7
    +20 Cloak Of Shadows (OSkill)
    Indestructible
    Cannot Be Frozen
    Ethereal
    25% Chance To Cast Level 1 Teleport When Struck(2 items)


    Partial Set bonus
    +35 life (2 items)
    +10% faster cast rate (2 items)

    Full Set Bonus
    +85 life
    All Resistances +15
    +100 life
    +10 Strength
    +20 Dexterity
    +3 All Skills
    +50% better chance to find Magic Items


    OR

    Resurrection Stone
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Trinket
    +270 Intellect
    Classes: Wizard
    Requires Level 85
    Item Level 392
    Equip: Reduces the base mana cost of your spells by 405.
    Equip: Gives the wearer a 50% chance of being able to resurrect with 20% health and mana.


    Deathly Hallows (0/3)
    Resurrection Stone
    Cloak of Invisibility
    Elder Wand

    (3) Your Mirror Image ability also causes you to deal 18% additional damage for 30 sec.
    (3) Your Arcane Blast, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Fireball spells have a chance to grant you 1750 spell power for 15 sec.

    Cloak of Invisibility
    Binds when picked up
    Unique
    Back
    699 Armor
    +365 Stamina
    +249 Intellect
    +97 Spirit
    Yellow Socket
    Socket Bonus: +14 Intellect
    Requires Level 85
    Item Level 392
    Classes: Wizard
    Equip: Increases your haste rating by 133 (2.81% @ L85).
    Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 207.
    Equip: Your healing and damage spells have a chance to increase your spell power by 1350 for 10 secs.


    Deathly Hallows (0/3)
    Resurrection Stone
    Cloak of Invisibility
    Elder Wand

    (3) Your Mirror Image ability also causes you to deal 18% additional damage for 30 sec.
    (3) Your Arcane Blast, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Fireball spells have a chance to grant you 1750 spell power for 15 sec.

    Elder Wand
    Binds when picked up
    Ranged Wand
    1337 - 2732 Fire Damage Speed 1.8
    (1130.3 damage per second)
    +201 Stamina
    +153 Intellect
    Red Socket
    Red Socket
    Red Socket
    Socket Bonus: +35 Intellect
    Durability 75 / 75
    Requires Level 85
    Item Level 392
    Classes: Wizard
    Equip: Increases your hit rating by 81 (1.83% @ L85).
    Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 97.


    Deathly Hallows (0/3)
    Resurrection Stone
    Cloak of Invisibility
    Elder Wand

    (3) Your Mirror Image ability also causes you to deal 18% additional damage for 30 sec.
    (3) Your Arcane Blast, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Fireball spells have a chance to grant you 1750 spell power for 15 sec.

    Yes, I was bored.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2010
  7. Kravot

    Kravot Fourth Year

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    Canon hints that Master of Death is a man who accepts death. Pretty lame... Although Dumbledore seemed to arrange his own death - I think that's called accepting it. Possible plot hole?


    Pretty much this. Canon Master of Death is as I said above, lame. If someone takes this idea, I'd like to see Master of Death to the effect of what the myth imply - the ability to defeat death.
    About Dumbledore dying from the curse, I think a good author could manage to keep him alive, especially if Master of Death is some kind of immortality.


    I approve this :)
     
  8. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    He accepted his own death, yeah, but I always saw it as saying that he never really moved on from what happened to his sister, never really accepted her death. Still lame in my opinion, but not really a plot hole.
     
  9. Hero of Stupidity

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    Respect.
    Maaaan I'm gonna play Diablo now for the hell of it.
     
  10. Jormungandr

    Jormungandr Prisoner

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    Lord Anarchy, respect +1.
     
  11. EinStern

    EinStern Seventh Year

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    Unfortunately, I have run out of thumb-ups for the day since I've been wasting them all over the place since I returned to the Internet about two hours ago. :facepalm
     
  12. Tenages

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    Let's just say the Deathly Hallows a latecoming, poorly explained Deus ex Machina and leave it at that.

    And awesomeness Lord Anarchy.
     
  13. Blazzano

    Blazzano Unspeakable

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    For some reason this bit tickles my bunny-bone, with modifications.

    Dumbledore successfully finds and destroys all of Voldemort's Horcruxes. He finds the last one (the Resurrection Stone for the sake of this bunny) at some point during Harry's first year at Hogwarts. As in canon, it curses him and he has less than a year to live.

    The fic (a one-shot) kicks in just after Harry has succeeded in saving the Philosopher's Stone from Voldemort, and Harry is still bedridden. Dumbledore, who is now quite close to death, is explaining Voldemort's Horcruxes to Harry. In this version of events, he also destroyed a sixth Horcrux that wasn't in canon (the sword of Gryffindor perhaps), which in this version was turned into a Horcrux before Voldemort lost his body. It would be a bit of a challenge trying to explain how Dumbledore was able to locate some of the Horcruxes, but that could be fun, actually.

    Dumbledore had hoped that the Resurrection Stone was the last of them, but he wasn't entirely sure. This is why he moved the Philospher's Stone to Hogwarts; if Voldemort's spirit still wandered the earth, he wanted to be able to verify its continued existence by luring it to Hogwarts.

    When Voldemort's soul fragment did show up, it confirmed Dumbledore's worst fear: the final Horcrux was Harry's curse scar. Harry's continued existence, explains Dumbledore, guarantees that Voldemort will return. Dumbledore's premature death means that Voldemort will most likely win the war; there is nobody yet capable of carrying the torch for the Order of the Phoenix and its allies.

    From this point it could go one of three ways, depending on one's inclination:

    1. Dumbledore is left with the agonizing choice of killing Harry in his bed, and making it look like an unexpected side effect of his battle with Quirrelmort. Given that he still understands the concept of the Greater Good, he does it.

    2. Dumbledore leaves Harry a choice between living and dying to save his new friends, ruthlessly tugging on Harry's heartstrings in the process. Choice left up to the writer.

    3. Dumbledore decides to kill Harry in his bed, but somehow gets caught before he can complete the task.

    Sounds a bit like an idea BajaB would come up with (though he'd probably reject it before writing anything, dismissing it as crazy stuff :awesome ).
     
  14. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    I can see it ending with a scene where both Harry and Albus are dead and as a spirits go to the next great adventure.
     
  15. Hero of Stupidity

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    with bunnys and with this: Song:cool:
     
  16. Anarchy

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    Nah, Albus and Harry, being the great warriors they are, die and arrive in Valhalla, where their next great adventures begin. They join the vikings in the siege of several famous cities such as London and Miklagaard (Istanbul) and later have a cup of earl grey with Thor in Asgard, before continuing with more pillaging and raping.
     
  17. Radical Dreamer

    Radical Dreamer Fourth Year DLP Supporter

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    We were kicking this around in IRC and it stuck in my brain for a bit:

    Harry Potter/Inception Crossover

    Dumbledore needs more information about the Horcruxs. However, the only way to get that information is to go inside Voldemort's mind to retrieve it using very powerful Legilimency. To do the complicated spell, a team needs to be assembled - Thankfully, most everyone they need is right at Hogwarts.

    Harry: The Extractor
    Ron: The Point-Man
    Hermione: The Architect
    Snape: The Chemist
    Lily Potter: The malivant spirit that haunts the minds of Harry, Snape, and Voldemort himself.

    How many layers will the dream have to be to get the information out of Voldemort? How many masks will the team be forced to wear to gain the Dark Lord's confidence and convince him of the dream state? Will Lily wreck the entire operation?

    There are lots of things someone could do with this fic. It could be part action, time travel, romance, drama, suspense: the possibilities are limitless. I just don't have time to do it.
     
  18. Zennith

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    Uh... seems unlikely that they'd NEED a... 'malivant' spirit hanging around... but otherwise interesting.
     
  19. Radical Dreamer

    Radical Dreamer Fourth Year DLP Supporter

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    I was thinking Lily could be the story's Mal. Or not, I dunno. I just like to keep things close to whatever you are crossing it over with.
     
  20. Zennith

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    Keeping it close is one thing. Making an exact copy and just changing the names is something else.
     
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