Wasn't sure if this should be in Multimedia or not, since it is HP related... but whatever - if it's wrong, Mods do your thing.

Spoilers about a plot change in DH part 2. Nothing huge, but a bit odd:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/19111/death-altered-in-deathly-hallows-part-two-

 

This will only increase the amount of pre-pubescent Snape love and, therefore, the amount of Snape-related slash fanfics. Great. :\

 

That won't change the fact that despite being one of the only truly competent wizards, his death was a dissapointment only exceeded by 'Not my daughter you bitch'.

 

One of the most important things about Snape's death is that it was in alone, in the shrieking shack at Voldemorts hand. He died a spy, not some grand, dramatic death. The poignant nature of his death is he died without anyone, and no one really cares. That highlights his own personal sacrifice so much more I think.

"Snape dies in a very good way" - No Voldemort discarded him like a dog and thats how it should be conveyed.

Not that I really care or anything...

 

The only thing that's changed is the location which is still a relatively isolated place so I don't see why you're complaining.

 

It makes sense from a film maker's viewpoint, because there's only so much you can do within the Shrieking Shack. I think they're doing the right thing, though I do agree with Randeemy; still, the average viewer won't pick up on the irony of Snape dying all alone. And I'm sure the director wouldn't mind throwing a bone to Alan Rickman, as he has played a large part in all of the movies and his character deserves a memorable death.

 

and he's Alan fucking Rickman. Man. Legend.

But yeah, you're right. You don't want a 'poignant' moment taking place in a shit hole, you want it to be something cinematic, and the Hogwarts boathouse has the potential to be that - flaming castle in the background et all.

Even in the books, Snape dying as an anticlimax and all the layers it entails are only picked up by communities like DLP, and not necessarily the average reader.

 

He had. . . a Machine Gun. And it cared.

 

I don't like this change. Snape dying in the shack was poignant because he had personal history in the shambled old building, with James, Sirius and Lupin.

How will a boathouse resonate more with viewers? I would think the shack would be a more effective setting than a random boathouse that never existed until the final movie.

 

Hogwarts has a boathouse?

 

Where do you think they keep the boats?

 

I don't know, but it wasn't mentioned in the books. But if they have Boathouse for the boats then that means they have Carriagehouse for the carriages?

 

Obviously.

 

I always assumed that they conjured the boats and carriages by, you know, magic.

The thought of a boathouse never really entered my mind.

Still, I don't like the change. Now if they changed it to have Neville duel and kill Bella... well, it would be better than Molly killing her.

 

Seeing as one of the most tense bits of the third movie was done in the Shrieking Shack, this wreaks of bullshit and failure. I don't see how they couldn't make Snape's death more dramatic - as I thought it was pretty well-done in the books.

They could've done something really cool, where when Snape says "look at me" to Harry, the eyes stay the same, but the Harry he's really seeing flickers between the Lily he imagines ( a la Maximus seeing the Colosseum/Elysium flickering in 'Gladiator').

And of course, an epic soundtrack could make taking a dump on par with the battle of Troy.

 

To be fair - and let me make clear that I have not seen Blaise take a shit (yet!) - there's not a lot of difference between the movie Troy and an epic dump-taking.

 

So as a 'Snape-fan', as some have deemed me, I have this to say about the changes...

What a fucking cop-out. After the first DH movie (which I had a lot of issues with, but mostly that I didn't think there was nearly enough plot and momentum to carry the second half of DH), I knew they were going to start changing shit... and so they did.

But this change is pointless - fucking POINTLESS! Why? What connection does Severus Snape have to the fucking Hogwarts boathouse? I wasn't even aware Hogwarts HAD a boathouse.

And here's what's worse: while I really disliked the way Snape was killed in DH, I'll admit that, but I will give Rowling props for at least trying to give it dramatic weight. It was quasi-powerful, the stark mental image of Voldemort casting aside his most powerful servant, and Snape dying in the place where Sirius tried to kill him with Lupin so long ago - the place where James saved Snape's life, yet Harry did not. The location had dramatic weight, added a powerful dynamic to the death, and a great deal of powerful symbolism. It wasn't good by any stretch, but it worked.

But now this? I'll ask again, what fucking connection does Snape have to the fucking Hogwarts boathouse? Why is it relevant to his story? Where's the emotional impetus and dramatic irony?

In my opinion, this is yet ANOTHER example of how David Yates is not a good director for this material - not by a fucking longshot. His direction is less about the actors giving great performances, as per the books, and more about framing grand cinematic shots that look good in trailers and on posters. His insistence on making the scene 'more dramatic' is a fucking cop-out, for instead of allowing Rickman to give a performance based on his own merits (and considering you have Alan FUCKING Rickman, you know he's capable of that) and instead change the location to increase drama.

And let me say this as my final remark on this: I was really looking forward to the sequence when Dobby died in DH Part 1. That scene was rife with panic and anger and fear in the novel, and Dobby's death was a gut-punch that hit (me, at least) with some real weight. How was it done in the movie? With wooden performances by all involved, a horrid amount of slow motion, and absolutely nothing to amplify the feelings of panic and fear that SHOULD have filled that scene. Not even the fucking MUSIC was done right (and on that note, the nice shift between evening/night at Malfoy Manor and morning at Shell Cottage was just so believable). And I say this with all the seriousness I can muster: Michael FUCKING Bay could have done that scene better.

So yeah, Yates is wrong for this material, and this movie is going to suck. And yet I'm going to see it anyways, to watch the trainwreck in motion.

 

You obviously haven't played HBP. I remember having to go down to the boathouse to fetch Luna for Slughorns christmas party and on the way I had to light off some fire works. That made absolutely no fucking sense.

So I'm a G-Whore. Sue me.

If the boathouse is anything like it was in the HBP game then I am going to be so dissapointed.

 

I bet that we will see some flashbacks with Snape/Lily moments in this boathouse.

 

The only worse thing they could do is make that scene romantic. Maybe they'll show the both of them arguing in the boathouse?

Oh,wait. This is a romantic death. In Italics. So they'll probably be making out.

This movie is bordering on hopeless.