Google. I finished WMF last week and felt a burning need to air the dirty laundry, and see if others felt the same way that I do.

 

Joe's mention of Denna being beaten with a walking stick jogged my memory. What do you know, but "[Bredon] directed them, pointing with his walking stick" (p. 387 WMF). As usual, I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but it seems like a pretty clear link to me. I don't think anyone else in the book is mentioned using a walking stick except Alveron, and it's pretty unlikely that he's Denna's patron.

 

This is my theory until I am proven wrong (i.e. the next book comes out). Brendon talks about picking up dancing and describes tak through a metaphor for dancing. Denna says her patron is a rather good dancer and in the court somewhere. You'll also note that when Denna is gone from Severen so is Brendon. Not to mention the when Brendon talks of a Beautiful game, well it's just sinister and full of mystery. (I'll quote my information later, but I don't have my book on hand) My kind of character.

 

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but does anyone know what Kvothe means/ Fela seems to understand about the significance of eating a stone? (from the scene after Kvothe is plum-bobed)

 

The point wasn't the king, the point was the name being contained in a chest. He says that the Name was written in a book of glass, hidden in a copper chest, and locked away in an iron chest. Kvothe's chest has a lock of iron, a lock of copper, and a lock that cannot be seen. When I lie or write a story, I tend to rely on what I know about the subject in order to make it sound more realistic. I don't even do it consciously, most of the time, it's just something I know so I think that way about it. It isn't strong support, just something similar I noticed.

Ryn: Fela isn't talking about swallowing a stone, she's talking about what it means that Kvothe can't ravage her any more then he can walk through a wall. At least, that's what I got out of it.

 

Which Fela then reads as he doesn't feel romantic about her, which is why she reacts in a disappointed/sad way, i.e. murmuring softly.

 

I lol'd. I literally fell off my front porch swing! (thank all for warmer weather here in the Northern Hemisphere)

 

BREDON YOU FOOLS! And otherwise good point. The dancing thing and the stick, the game of Tak being known by him and Felurian, as well as his mysterious position in Vint make him a bit too suspicious, but I can't tell if he or Caudicus is the red herring.

 

Communism! It was only a red herring... For all my avid Clue movie watchers.

Any other productive writing will have to come after another re-read and a few hours of sleep.

 

Not sure if this is old news, but there's a comic summary of the first book on Rothfuss' blog.

http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/

 

Just got to the point where he introduces himself to Kvothe today, I noticed that he never actually says his name is Bredon. He introduces himself with the line 'You can call me Bredon.'

 

hey! im new so please excuse any nonsense or repeats!

firstly: i think the stories about tehlu abolishing the demons and lanre are connected. when kvothe found the chandrian after they had killed his family, haliax had punished cinder by saying "perula", which sounds like periel (the name of the tehlus baby momma). so maybe she had something to do with forming the amyr...

and B: denna always has a "d" name, but then calls herself "alora" in the vintas area. maybe shes closer to home (like maybe shes krins sister)

or she is really princess ariel.
also it bothered me that patrick mentioned princess ariel in the beginning of wmf (to the smithy apprentice who wants to go enlist) but never actually enlightened us. in the next book?
my money would be more on auri being princess ariel, but alora is kinda close to ariel, and so very different from denna, making it stand out all the more...

and for the next book, i agree with styx0444

that the next books would not be a restrospective view, but more kvothe telling as things are happening. in the next book they would finish the story of how kvothe became kote, and then show his transformation back to kvothe... there are too many lose strings for the next book: princess ariel, kvothe being expelled (i odnt agree that notw was the actual expell - i think kvothe didnt get the arcanist guilder), meeting bast, losing denna, killing a king, finding the amyr (which the chaetah said would be aided by the maer) and then the million dollar question of the chandrian. i think the hunt for the amyr and killing the chandrian warrants its own books series (or at least book)

thoughts?

 

After the 1st read through, which i admit didnt take long as i was trying to consume the whole book asap, i regret not reading the NotW before the i read WMF a second time. Now im going to have to wait, as i have started reading something else, before i can start the series afresh.

 

Ambrose is Denna's patron. Fact.

 

Ok, a question I have is where is all this speculation about Princess Ariel come from. I honestly can't remember any specific mention of her in the books at all. Apart from the "stealing back princesses from sleeping barrow kings".

 

Finally back to a computer and didnt want to type all this on my phone. So just now getting around to posting my opinion.

The only problem I had with the book was that it seemed drag in parts. I doubt it would have been so bad if I had read it at a slower pace and not tried to set a speed record. As others have said the parts with the search for the bandits,Felurian and the Adem dragged on.

Things I liked:
Bast is one scary son of a bitch. The way he walked into the camp at the end of the book was great. He was obviously more than he appeared in NotW when he attacked Chronicler. But that really becomes obvious in WMF. Im looking forward to finding out how Bast and Kvothe met. I dont think he is the son of Felurian and Kvothe, Kvothe mentions Bast's father in NotW.

The Maer. I think Rothfuss got the characterization of someone like this perfectly. Nothing and no one tells the Maer what he can and can not do. He is literally as powerful as a king without being a king. I would not be suprised if Kvothe and the Maer secretly meet at some point with his wife knowing.

Finding out Devi is much much more than just a moneylender. The fact that she could bitch slap Kvothe with ease, despite the fact that he is in Dal's opinion one of the best sympathists in the university, was great.

Finding out that as great as Kvothe is, he is not invincible. As I said Devi bitch slapped Kvothe, he is nothing compared to the fully trained Adem when it comes to using a sword. He starts losing in Dal's class by the end, I dont count his losing earlier and as that was mostly due to his exhaustion defending himself from Ambrose. This is the biggest difference for me between the two books. In NotW Kvothe is unstoppable, learning everything, and is among the best in everything he does. In WMF he starts having some difficulty naming, swords, etc...

Im not the biggest fan of Denna, but I doubt think she is a Chandrian herself. I can see her being linked to them through her patron but thats it. I dont see her knowingly being involved.


I personally think that Kote is not an idiot. He isnt quite Kvothe again but he is no idiot. I think he knows exactly how Chronicler found him, why the soldiers came there, and that Bast is trying to get him to become Kvothe again. I just dont see something like this getting past him. Sure he isnt Kvothe, but he is getting back there slowly but surely.

 

Addressing all the theories that one of the girls Kvothe rescues is somehow Denna's sister: while I don't have any concrete evidence to the contrary (as there is no concrete evidence to support that they're sisters in any case), I think it more likely that this is just a more subtle way of establishing possibly what caused Denna to become what she is. It's just a thought, but I think it more likely than that they're sisters.

 

I'm pretty sure that she's also mentioned in the Name of the Wind at some point, but I don't have my copy on hand to find it.

 

Read through both TNOTW and TWMF in the last few weeks. My face throughout: :awesome

I think my only complaints with this one are as Taure and some others said: the Fae/Adem portion dragged on for a little too long. Made worse by the Adem strongly reminding me of the Aiel in Wheel of Time, whom I loathe. The resemblances are few and mostly superficial, I know, but all the same, that whole archetype just annoys the hell out of me now. Plus the "how is babby formed?" thing that came out of nowhere. I was disappointed to find that they weren't just trolling Kvothe. :facepalm

Question: anyone else hearing Gideon Emery (Fenris in DA2, Balthier in FFXII) for Kvothe's voice? I think he fits perfectly.

 

NO. Kvothe is young dude, not Gideon Emery. He is a boss, and he voices boss characters, but hes a touch too smooth for the Kvothe role. Just doesn't fit.

And to the new person: the thread is not that long. Pretty much all your things have been talked about. And he punished Cinder by saying 'Ferule', which is Cinder's Name.

Anyway, that comic was so far from my mental image it didn't even compute.