I fast forwarded through most of OotP while raging. Haven't gone back since >_>

 

Apparently, Harry and Voldy's final confrontation will be like a boss battle in God of War, divided into several stages where they beat the shit out of each other in different ways. Can't say that I object.

 

To be honest I'd never really finished reading Deathly Hallows, because at the time the book was published in my country I'd been already sent to academy.

My friends told me years ago that Voldemort was killed by some Deus Ex Machina, that he was killed by such ridiculous and laughable way, etc. But I'd never really knew what happened. So... maybe these are some very stupid questions but I'm going to ask them anyway: was there some brief battle between him and Harry? Maybe not great, and neither epic (if it was, I must have heard about that). But seriously, how did the battle happen? And how exactly did he die?

EDIT: No local library here have Harry Potter books anymore. And I searched wiki, but none of them provide specific information.

 

Quickly before I leave for lunch:

Spoilers, because better safe than sorry. -_-

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Voldemort has the Elder Wand, thinks he owns it but he doesn't, Harry explains to him why he doesn't (the explanation makes no sense, but whatever), they quick-draw and fire "Avada Kedavra" and "Expelliarmus" again, but Voldemort's spell backfires and he dies. And they live happily ever after.

 

.....Er, thanks, that was what my friends used to tell me and what Wikipedias are saying.

And, so.............. is that really all of it? How about the battle? How about the duel between them (like the one I saw in the trailer)?

 

Duel? There is no duel. Just Harry talking, Voldemort WTFing, Expelliarmus, Avada Kedavra, spell backfire THE END.

 

EDIT: Fuckin' ninja'd

There is no duel. There's a Battle of Hogwarts, lots of people die, but Harry basically doesn't do anything except what Red Aviary wrote.

 

The part that frustrates me the most is

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that right after Harry informs Voldemort of his only advanatge, Voldemort is like "Oh, OK, cool, let's use the Elder Wand anyway instead of the yew wand I still fucking have."

 

Assuming he still had it. It wouldn't surprise me if he discarded it once he had the Elder Wand.

 

That depends on how important his first wand was to him and we're talking about the guy who used his diary as the first Horcrux, so I say he was sentimental enough to keep it.

 

Voldemort was hardly a man who gave anything on sentiments. He only cared about himself, his power, and his immortality. He made the diary a horcrux because he wanted it to be used, in order to re-open the Chamber of Secrets.

 

Yet he used very specific, historical things as his Horcruxes when he could use whatever he wanted. I find it a little sentimental.

Anyway, I don't remember many things from books, but was it really Riddle's plan to use diary that way? He was just sixteen years old when he created it, so it'd be impressive thinking ahead on his part. Also, I was under impression that the whole incident in the second book was Malfoy doing evil things on his own without fully understanding the importance of the diary.

 

I don't think that's canon.
Also the Voldemort I see is the kind of egoist who would be like "Psh, I don't need a fucking elder wand to pwn you anyways Potter. I'm gonna use my fucking ebony wand because you don't have your holly wand anymore. Also, because it's totally lulzy to kill Dumbledore's golden boy with a feather from his own familiar."

 

I disagree. I see Voldemort more as being way too proud and arrogant to use his old wand. He would never believe/admit that he had been outmaneuvered by Harry like that - that Harry had figured out the truth about the wand and he hadn't.

Voldemort believed he had the upper hand - nothing Harry said at that point would have been able to persuade him otherwise. As he says "What does it matter...You no longer have the phoenix core wand, we duel on skill alone…"

 

Was that actually Priori Incantatum? During the duel, Harry's wand should still be broken.

Edit: I think I remember the same thing happening between Dumbledore and Voldemort in OoTP, but I haven't watched it in a while so I'm not sure.

 

Here's the Dumbledore vs. Voldemort fight in OotP.

They did a "crossing the streams" thing, but it wasn't Priori Incantatum. A little uninspired if you ask me, given that they look so similar.

 

I wouldn't call that sentimental, really. That was more his way of taking revenge on the wizarding world, using artifacts of their idols and legends to ensure his own immortality.

I do believe that Riddle wanted that from the very start. He gave the diary to Malfoy with specific instructions to smuggle it into Hogwarts in order to open the Chamber of Secrets. Lucius got punished for doing it in the end because a) he didn't wait for Voldemort's signal, as he vanished shortly after giving him the diary and b) he used it for his own agenda and c) it got destroyed in the end.

 

Except...

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Voldemort doesn't know that Harry's holly wand is broken, does he? As far as he knows Harry is only using that for the same reason that Voldemort used Lucius' wand before. Why take the risk of getting out his yew wand and potentially doing battle against Harry's holly when he knows how that will end up. The Elder Wand at least has a chance even if Harry brings out his original wand.

And is there any evidence in cannon that a normal wand will backfire in such a way when used against it's master? I don't recall any.

 

That's because there isn't. The only one that comes close in the CoS incident with Rons wand, although that was more contrived to the useless wand but I suppose you could also include on the opposite end Harry's wand at the beginning of Deathly Hallows when it acts for him.

Pretty much both bullshit reasons. I can see the wand not wanting to attack its master, but firing its own curse at its wielder? Meh.

 

Spoiler about Snape during the movie below.

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A scene is added in Snape's flashback where he comes to Godric's Hollow, after Lily and James were killed in 1981, to see them dead even collapsing when seeing Lily dead, he cradles her in his arms then sees Harry sitting in his crib watching on.

Dosen't this muck up most of the timeline?

Also, Spoiler about Hermione/Harry/Ron scene which is unique to the movie.

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Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along.

I didn't think I could think Hermione was anymore of a Sue before...