That's a good point, I hadn't thought about that. It makes sense; if he can't remember specifics, then all he would probably be able to use to designate them would be a label, which goes a long way towards dehumanizing something.

Double irony, hmm? I like it.

 

The Doctor has gotten much darker since the Time War. The Tenth has committed genocide many times, although he would always give them a single chance before doing it.

Makes sense that as he ages he gets less and less forgiving, especially if the Valeyard is to be created in the future.

 

To be fair, the Silence/someone connected to them did blow up the TARDIS, repeatedly. Technical pacifist or not, you don't do that to someone's wheels/lifelong companion

 

No spoiler tags so meh

To the tardis, I wondered this as well but I think it is heavily implied that this is the tardis from the lodger. The doctor made a line to the extent that he was about to find out how this tardis got there.

As such he can't do to much to it as it will effect his own timeline. And to your later post. It is never discussed where the silence's tardis was that they materialised. it doesn't have to be located in america, it could have been in high earth orbit.

The lodger indicated that it crashed on craigs flat.

The only thing that left me a little uncomfortable was the line by nixon saying the moon was far enough for today. I know he can't say make interracial gay weddings legal especially considering the hot issue it is now in America; I found myself reading into that line way too much.

I am completely ok with the S.Baby. If you wanted there to never be a retconn of a plot point you are watching the wrong series.

How many times have the Daleks been defeated so completely and utterly that there is no chance they will ever come back, until the next season.

Same thing with Davros, the Master, and the silurians(sp).

I expect the same with the Angels and the silence as well. Even though they are to be hunted by the human race for all eternity, they'll be back. Its doctor who.

As to everyones else now noticing that the doctor doomed the silence to genocide

That is out of character but the doctor seems to be doing a lot of shady things this regeneration.

His experience and his morals tell him to respect life. But his personality now seems to lend himself to being a tad evil. Which is kind of awesome.

I was hoping he would have a evil regeneration. this seems to be as close as we are to come.

 

Wokay. Here goes.

First off, the S. Baby (why're we calling her that, anyway?). While her being a miniature Time Lady threw me for a loop initially (it really came out of nowhere), I think it's a good game changer for the show.

Amy already knew she was pregnant before the events of the premiere- how else would she have thought to tell the Doctor? Presumably, it's Rory's- if it was the Doctor's, it's unthinkable that something that significant would have happened off screen last Series. Besides, she and Rory were on their honeymoon for fucking ages, pun intended.

It can't be a coincidence that they cremated the Doctor's body to stop anyone trying to get at the gooey Time Lord filling inside, while Amy saw a Silent during the picnic in The Impossible Astronaut.

If Moffat made a big deal about the Doctor's genetic information, and there's now a little rugrat Time Lady running around after being held by the Silence, I call shenanigans.

EDIT: So I kinda forgot about the Silent in the White House bathroom that told her to spill the beans. My point still stands though, since it only told her to tell the Doctor "What he needs to know, and what he must never know."



The pseudo-TARDIS. As QuaziJoe said, it's not made clear exactly where Amy was being held, and for how long. All the Silence said was "You've been here many days." That's not helpful. Improbable as it is, it's not inconceivable that they used the pseudo-TARDIS somehow and held her there for 9 months, before going back in time and doing something extremely very convoluted. Anything's possible here, as it's been kept so ambiguous.



On the topic of the Doctor being OOC. I really don't understand why all of you are crying about it, because I don't see him as being out of character at all during the episode- although I will admit that there should have been more exposition before he sprung the LOL-I-KEEL-YOU-SILENZ trap.

We've had all of one series to get to know this regeneration of the Doctor. Besides, characters are supposed to change and grow- even 907 year old Time Lords. Even assuming a completely static character, every time he regenerates, both his personality and his appearance still change.

"But Rutris! He always gave races a chance before exterminating them!" Whoop dee doo, that was the 10th Doctor. This is the 11th Doctor.

Even discounting the "New mouth, new rules" aspect of regeneration (to misquote the Doctor), he's also had a number of previous incarnations who've been aggressive or quick to action, who have also killed a huge number of sentient beings without warning (although always justified).

The 4th Doctor, despite being the bubbling and silly man popping Jelly Babies like crack and wearing a ridiculous scarf, never shied away from killing- occasionally entire races. In The City of Death, he causes the last hope of the Jagaroth race to die (Scaroth, who manned their ship, was also the last member of his species) out in a pretty ball of flame on the primeval Earth, causing their extinction. He also wiped out a Sontaran fleet by way of a De-mat gun (a forbidden Time Lord weapon that erased its targets from time itself) without much ado.

The 6th Doctor was said to be "...an unpredictable and somewhat petulant egoist, whose garish, multicoloured attire reflected his volatile personality. He was both portentous and eloquent /...and his unpredictability was made even wilder by his mood swings, manic behaviour, bombastic outbursts and glib, unflappable wit /...underneath his blustering exterior, he was more determined than ever in his universal battles against evil, possessed of a tenacity and a thirst to do what was right that was far more visible than ever before. Despite his often unstable demeanour, he was always ready to act when necessary, and very little – even his companions– could hope to stand in his way."

The 7th Doctor was, while normally an amiable and charming fellow, also a scheming, sometimes detached mofo with a knack for damn dirty traps. To quote Wikipedia: "In Remembrance, the Seventh Doctor returned to 1963, apparently to move the Hand to another hiding place. In truth, he was laying a trap for the Daleks and their creator, Davros. Davros had hoped to use the Hand to transform the sun of the Dalek homeworld Skaro into a power source for time travel. However, the Doctor had altered the Hand's programming so that instead of enhancing Skaro's sun, the Hand turned it supernova, obliterating Skaro and, presumably, the Daleks themselves. The Hand of Omega returned to Gallifrey afterward.'"

TL;DR, The Doctor's personality and quirks are always subject to change. What doesn't change (aside from his memories and core morals) is his aversion to 'evil' and his constant struggle against it. The Silence were subjugating the people of Earth, and so the Doctor gave mankind the tools to free themselves from their influence. That's all I see it as.

 

@Lutris; S.Baby stands for Schrodinger's Baby because the scanner said she was both preggers and not preggers at the same time while trapped in Amys womb.

Io9 called it Schrodinger's Zygote but this was after the Schrodinger's Baby crack and Thus S. Baby is the Progenitor.

Also, its not really that weird they cremated The Doctor considering they had set a precedent already by cremating The Master with the tennant series.

I think it was more pomp as to how wonerful the time lords are as creatures, making us impressed and awed. I don't believe they talked at all about the timelord genetics.

The boat was the only new twist and may be signifigant since it was just waiting on the day the doctor new he would be killed and ordered Canton to bring gasoline.

New Theory.

S.Baby is the geneticly manipulated child of Amy and Rory, by the silence, so they could have her transport them throughout the universe. She will get taken in the suit and the only way for her to survive is to some how absorb the doctors regenerative powers...

Requiring the doctor to let the suit kill him to free her. And let herself get arrested as she killed a great man.

Whatever inconcistencies she may have in terms of behaviour in regards to herself may be due to forgetting because of the silence guarding her for x amount of time.

This would also explain her "of course not" line when she was shooting at the suit"

TL;DR?

Doctor is boning Amy and Rory's girl. And they won't know until they realize it is river song.

 

Ah.

This is what I was implying in my post, before the huge TL;DR. Hence the bit about Time Lord genetic material and there being a Silent nearby right before the Doctor's death. :facepalm

 

yes but you forgot the important part.

The doctor bangs her.

 

I really, really don't like the idea that River is Amy and Rory's kid. Even if it fits.

For one, Alex Kingston's bone structure is just wrong, and it's just not believable enough.

That and River's not a fucking Time Lady. If she is, I'm going to rage. Because that's just ridiculous to Davies levels.

 

Bone structure doesn't matter when its regeneration time. But meh, Its probably some ludicrus idea that no one can think up so your probably safe.

Although does River pass for half black... cause this could be mpreg Cantons love child?
Think of the fanfiction that will arise...

I actually don't know what ethnicity she is?

 

Her father is English (Anthony Kingston), and her mother is German, according to Wikipedia.

 

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I like my version better

 

Leaving aside Lutris's explanation (perfectly accurate: remember what he did to the Weeping Angels? He could have warned them. Same for the fish things), there's an in episode explantion. Humanity was made to kill the Silence through post hypnotic suggestion from a Silent telling them to kill them on sight. The Doctor watched that same video.

 

That is actually a cool interpretation. I never considered that the silences own words would dictate the doctors actions and make him behave the way he did.

 

The Doctor watched the Moon landing like four times in 'Blink'...

 

To be fair, that particular universe DID end almost completely once, last series. The 'current' universe is, technically speaking, a recreation of the old universe extrapolated from particles inside of the Pandorica.

I'm sure that has something to do with the whole Silence deal, considering the big deal they made of the Silence Will Fall slogan last series as well.

It also may be superfluous, but the voice that said "Silence will fall!" in the TARDIS last series sounds nothing like any of the Silence, so I'm wondering whether there's a 'mastermind' behind them. Moffat DID say that they would bring somebody 'important' back.

 

I personally thought that voice was davros.

 

God, I hope not.

Personally, I'm hoping for someone like Omega, or another badass character from the classic series.

 

I'd actually really like it to be the Valeyard. I liked the Valeyard. They should bring him back, somehow.