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WIP Prince of the Dark Kingdom by Mizuni-sama - M

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by headbanger22, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    So this entire system of government is confusing to me. Voldemort seems to be some sort of monarch -- yet he still bows to political pressure. For example, he feels that the fact that Harry has bruises on his neck would be frowned upon and be bad for his reputation -- my question is why the fuck would Voldemort care? This is the same guy who put an 11 year old under the Cruciatus curse in the middle of a full Great Hall for interrupting a speech, in the very same story. If we're going by canon, this is the same guy who went on a mission to kill a one year old baby without any moral qualms.

    Also, I don't get the role of muggles in this at all. Surely they know that there has been a regime change -- one that doesn't look favorably upon their kind. Yet Voldemort hasn't been shown to take any overt action over the muggle government, simply letting them be. The only thing he's done is to take muggleborns away from their parents and wipe their memories.

    This is all very confusing for me, and the story is moving very slowly, so explanations are as well slow. ;-;
     
  2. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The bruises vs. cruciatus is a bit inconsistent, yes. The only explanation I can think of is that he doesn't want people to think he had to resort to physical violence because he lost his temper, but as far as I can tell it's not alluded to as a motivation in the story, just my own reasoning.

    He bows to political pressure because he wants to goodwill of his people, not just dominion over them.
     
  3. The Berkeley Hunt

    The Berkeley Hunt Headmaster

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    To answer Sree, I think it was said that his aims are not to murder all muggles, merely to remove wizarding society from their influence. Voldemort's solution was to make the society totally removed from muggles.

    Voldemort's position is unique in government because he is nominally in charge of the country, but was not elected or inherited to the title, as well as not likely to lose his position any time soon (immortality etc). I see him in a position much like Stalin, in total control using methods like propaganda and icons like Harry to control the populace, while still engaging in the petty acts of violence that define his character.
     
  4. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    Ok...

    Another question: what happened to Voldemort to make him change into this stable individual we see? We know he has horcruxes, so we know he is or was a ruthless, cold blooded murderer. But apparently his soul is being held together by "Mother Earth" (because she loves him so much) or whatever nonsense that was?

    So basically, is Voldemort a (gay) evil son of a bitch just acting like he's not demented, or is he a (gay) stable man?
     
  5. cloud91

    cloud91 Fourth Year

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    Voldemort doesn't have his horcruxes anymore, at some point in the story(I can't remember which book) Harry does a ritual or something and somehow puts Voldemort's soul back together.
     
  6. Nooblet

    Nooblet Sixth Year DLP Supporter

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    Was that what that was? I was under the impression that Harry asked for Voldemort to regain the ability to empathise. It's book 4 btw.
     
  7. Garden

    Garden Supreme Mugwump

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    That ritual does something (its not made that explicit) to Voldemort's horcruxes and his empathy.
     
  8. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    Wait. So Voldemort... isn't evil and isn't going to become Harry's enemy after he grows up?

    That kinda takes away from the awesomeness the story could be. :\
     
  9. Garden

    Garden Supreme Mugwump

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    Voldemort is still an evil murdering heartless bastard. He's just slightly less heartless now.
     
  10. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    That isn't answering the question. Which leads me to believe that Harry will never fight Voldemort. :(
     
  11. Naja

    Naja Fourth Year

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    I wouldn't call Voldemort stable at all. He's charasmatic and a superb leader but he also has his moments where he comes off as utterly inhuman. See the end of book two and this latest chapter in particular.

    I think a fight between Harry and Voldemort is inevitable. Harry knows Voldemort is capable of practically anything, but Voldemort has been careful to hide his more depraved activities.
     
  12. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    I gotta admit, that was hilarious to me.
     
  13. Shinysavage

    Shinysavage Madman With A Box ~ Prestige ~

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    It hasn't happened yet, but the prophecy definitely exists in some form or another, so chances are they're going to have a smackdown.

    Voldemort went after Neville and killed him, so believes the prophecy is null and void. Snape knows better
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  14. The Berkeley Hunt

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    Harry's ritual was to force Voldemort to have the ability to empathise, but had the effect of shoving all his soul pieces back into his body (as I understand it). So, this makes him more stable, and able to experience emotions, but he is still a cold-hearted evil motherfucker is is willing to wheel, deal, and kill anyone who gets in his way. I definitely see a point where, Voldemort does something unforgivable (massacre, assassination of someone Harry knows, or others) that he thinks is fine but Harry doesn't. There will definitely still be a confrontation there.
     
  15. Shouldabeenadog

    Shouldabeenadog Death Eater

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    From the snippets we've seen this voldemort, especially after the ritual, seems more interested in ruling the world than in being the terrorist murdering bastard of Rowling's world. This is the cold-blooded despot who really doesn't care upon how many corpses he builds his castle, so long as he has one person he respects to show off that castle to.
     
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    Kthr Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    I remember a pm I got from the author that hinted towards Harry going against Voldemort in a far future. Granted, it was years ago but if the author planned the story and didn't change his mind, it will still happen.

    The prophecy is still at work, is it not? Besides, didn't Bob scare Voldemort saying Harry would turn on him, just as Voldemort did with his mentor?
     
  17. Gila

    Gila Second Year DLP Supporter

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    I've been kind of interested in this whole Tom angle of late. He is moving around in the shadows trying to overthrow Voldermort or something and get Harry to himself. Right now he seems to me to be developing more into an evil overlord type than Voldermort himself. After all he seems to think that Voldermort has been too slack or something in dealing with certain "problems" like the werewolves for example. I think he is going to play an important role in how the whole thing turns out especially since we seem to already be about half way through book six and nobody is even aware of his presence.
     
  18. The Berkeley Hunt

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    Maybe, but he seems a bit too background to me. He was set up as a minor villain, all creepy and sneaky, but not as menacing as other characters. I think he'll turn up at the endgame and massively complicate things, but he will not be a Littlefinger type who plays everyone and comes out on top.
     
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    The whole reason Voldemort hasn't already killed him is because of Ron, really.
     
  20. Cxjenious

    Cxjenious Dark Lord

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    I'm waiting for the inevitable Harry Viktor meeting.
     
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