I'm not a fan of argument that because Molly is a housewife that she couldn't beat Bella. I always figured that dueling prowess went hand in hand with talent in the HP world.

It's not like Dumbledore was living in the jungles like Rambo honing his skills to defeat Grindelwald. He was a school teacher who finally decided enough was enough and defeated a guy who had nearly conquered Europe because he was slightly more talented. Which is why Dumbledore stays the best. He runs a school and a part of the government. He's not an auror battling bad guys everyday or training with sparring dummies in his spare time. He's just more talented than everyone else.

I know it's hard to swallow because Molly is an annoying hambeast, but I think we have to admit that she may have just been more talented than Bellatrix. /yeah, I said it.

 

In his youth Dumbledore traveled around with Grindweld and was a prodigy, a bit different than a housewife

 

Or, the entire series could be about pathetically inept underdogs overcoming supposedly skilled adepts. Harry v. Voldemort, repeat at least five times. Numerous other examples.

Some stories have the ewoks win; I tend to think those stories are cheap. While they may be entertaining, they're usually not satisfying. Personally, I like to see the important characters getting killed--not because it's realistic but because the end tends to be much more satisfying. The protagonist realizes it wasn't easy and the audience is shown the antagonist is an actual threat that needs to be stopped.

Killing Sirius and whichever twin that died ain't large enough.

 

They did kill off Dumbledore as well, although the way he dies is annoying.

 

Fucking successful derailment is successful. Honestly, only on DLP would

Create three pages of lulz.

 

Pay for my ticket to the US and back as well as for three days in a hotel and I will.

 

Bolded for emphasis. If I recall, their family clock was charmed by her, and I think it was mentioned to be a fairly good piece of magic.

 

Bolded for emphasis. I'm hardly going to dispute her domestic and charms prowess.

 

Unspeakable Molly sounds like a cool crack story idea, with secret messages being exchanged through Celistina Warbeck song lyrics and using the garden gnomes as operatives. Explains why Wormtail chose that family.

 

Apparently I misread what you meant as saying she had no definable skills at all. My bad.

The point I was also trying to get across was that she was portrayed in Canon as just being a house-wife, implying a general lack of skill in magic beyond the mundane.

Also, along with Canon, when one person has been portrayed as skilled, it usually goes hand-in-hand with their prowess wielding it in a duel. So I was not trying to call you out, just pointing to the fact that it had been implied she was skilled so was not too far from left field that she had some skill with magic.

 

iirc he didn't travel around the world. He had to stay home and care for his family. Grindelwald went off on his own after Arianna's death. So, yeah, he stayed home and took care of his family. He was an uber housewife. Though my memory is a little hazy.

 

/me walks into the thread.

/me walks out of the thread.

(Also, who the hell added that damn cat pic?)

 

Has everyone forgotten the DoM battle? Even fresh out of Azkaban didn't Bellatrix run through like 3 Order members, and even block Dumbledore's spells in that fight?

Based on that performance, Molly killing her in DH really doesn't make any sense. How could she accomplish that when people like Moody, Kingsly, Dumbledore, etc. couldn't?

 

It seems unlikely that Bellatrix would pwn Dumbledore, to be honest.

 

I was just mentioning the fact that she could block DD's spells in a duel...even though he probably wasn't going for the kill. Compared to that and defeating 3 aurors in quick succession, Molly Weasley should be a piece of cake.

 

True, but consistency doesn't seem to be JK's strong point.

 

Poverty.

Ayup.

But, clearly, that's a different kind of plug.
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I really don't see how Azkaban in any way hindered Bellatrix, other than removing any last shred of sanity and non-murderous thought from her head.

Yeah, right when she got out she'd be a bit on the weak side - though she did alright at the DOM. Course, this is now two years on from her release, so presumably she's polished off the wand and thrown about a few spells in the interim.

Truefact: A murderous psychopath released after a decade in prison given two years will be able to kill a housewife.

The only advantages Molly has is 1) massive shot of rage and 2) Bellatrix not being entirely lucid in the fight. She is not more skilled than Bellatrix, and certainly not in dueling skills - be they the spells themselves or fight mechanics.

Molly winning the fight is possible. If luck conspires with her strengths, then it's just one of those shit happens things that well... happened. History is full of stories of badasses being taken down in otherwise retarded ways, and this was one of those moments.

However, at no point should it be argued that Molly won because of she harbors previously unseen and undiscovered talents at making people die. Rowling already did the heavy lifting at making the Death Eaters a bunch of incompetents; there is no reason for us to assist.

 

Okay, I was gonna leave well-enough alone, since it's clear that I'm just clowning around - but did you really just say that ? Are you fucking kidding me?

You know who else was poor? Tom Marvolo Riddle. The Dumbledore's weren't rolling in it, either.