I was going to come up with something witty. However...

Go die in a fire so that I can dance on your grave already. I am fucking sick of your bullshit.

 

Wow, that'd be a change.

(Seriously though, y'all lovebirds should go to couples counseling or some shit, yeah?)

EDIT:

Somethin' I feel I need to add. While I don't agree with having a contest for writing a welcome PM (not everything needs to be a contest, damnit), or letting Taure anywhere near it for that matter, I do agree with the concept of having a new one that warns the incoming newb that we're pretty much shitheads. DLP has a character of its own, to put it politely, and acknowledging that from the get-go might cut down on a little of the hyperdefensiveness and sacrificial lamb types of behavior that've cropped up in a handful of newbs.

I mean, let's be blunt here: Even when we agree with each other, we take the piss out of each other a lot, and that's some serious mixed messages shit right there by the standards of a lot of internet communities.

Also, on a semi-related note, would it be possible to throw up a popup or some shit when you chose to use the mibbit IRC link up top telling people to A) Pick a real nick and B) Directing them where to get a real client? Much as I get endless lulz from jumping on people over that shit on IRC, the fact of the matter is that's typically something born from ignorance, not ill will.

 

And just when I was getting ready to write a new essay on the subject you go and prove all my points valid in a few posts. Congratulations, Taure. It must be nice to see the end of a debate, finally.

I'd be less inclined to slap the piss out of you if this was a redundant debate over useless nonsense, and not a valid conversation. Also the fact that you are one of the most long winded fuckers on this site, over inane, trivial details too. How long was that last essay of yours on wand movements and vocal commands? Five? Six pages? D:

Regardless of how the tone may be and what anyone outside says, I'm genuinely interested in what Blaise thinks about the entire thing and do want to know how he would encourage people to not just do it because fuck you I said so, but to want to do it. How he'd stop this hive of scum and villainy from shooting first.

I end with a "TL;DR: Fuck off." and a protip for everyone to keep in mind.

Protip: DLP always shoots first.

 

The best possible welcome message for newbies?

1. Split out the parts of this thread arguing about newbie welcome messages.
2. Link the newly split thread in the newbie welcome message.
3. "Is this bewildering to you? Yes? Lurk more; DLP eats its young."

 

Occasionally it can be difficult to tell who-is-who with DLPers changing their nicks, as mentioned here: https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=467936

It would be very useful to be able to see a list of nicks previously associated with an account. Place it in the "About Me" tab in their public profile.

As an addendum to that, when people change their nicks give them a tiny mask icon next to their name for the next 30 days, so that we know they're an old fag wearing a new identity.

Something like this:

Space Ghost <-- not sure how to make background of .gif transparent.

 

I have a few ideas for the site, but I guess it all depends on the traffic it gets. The number in my head is only based on the amount of people who actually post. There must be a rather large portion of users who merely lurk and snigger at our weirdness from the background.

So, could we have a few figures? Daily users visiting the site? The hotspots? How many are members and how many are visitors?

 

Why should I change my phrasing to accomodate anybody's fragile sensibilities? I thought this was DLP.

And "not even relatively true?" I beg to differ, since I'm sure that the vast majority of people who have read this thread did not think about taking newb greetings to PM. I very much doubt the "King of not giving a fuck" gave it much thought before now, and you presume that most people will think/act more along the same mindset that you do, sooooo.....

That's your opinion.

For the record: I'm not a hipster, nor am I an arrogant douchebag - not that either label has shit-all to do with what's being discussed, which is why I facepalmed. Because of course every disagreement on DLP has to devolve into tangential bullshit about one's tone, or one's grammar, or anything else somebody can fleece out that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. As it is, I shouldn't have even given that comment lip service.

Moving on.

I think we're misunderstanding each other. Users have the ability, right now, to delete comments posted on their profile walls - at least, I've always been able to. Unless I'm missing something?

I think it could turn out differently, since there's an element of access that's not given when it comes to someone's wall. With the threads, someone just logging in could simply click "new posts" (or see which threads they'd subscribed to), see the heightening activity in an intro thread, and go in guns blazing. Another huge draw (for me, at least) was when a more popular member was the the lastest post; then it was like "Awwwww yeaaah, something funny's about to happen."

Profile walls have no such notifications or readily-available stats. If you see the chatter on someone's profile, it's because you wanted to go out of your way to read up on that person.

It could degenerate into the same thing if a small link is encouraging more traffic to these newbs' walls, but it's worth a shot IMO.

This is a solid idea, but I wouldn't want to detract from getting members to do their part towards flushing out neglected stories.

I suppose that's one way of looking at it - if the proposed link was forced. This isn't the same as how the rest of us are subjected to shitty posts proliferating the boards, as some newb attempts to get enough postcount to (a) use Thumbs Up, or (b) access the Restricted Section, etc.

The scenario I have in mind involves the newb making a post somewhere else on the boards. If it attracts attention for being particularly intelligent or contributes something more than worthwhile to the thread, then in addition to just hitting the Thumbs Up button, I'll see, "Oh, it's a new member as well. Lemme say hi/drop some pointers to get him/her to keep on contributing good stuff."

I see it more like-

What It Is Now

("There's cereal in the pantry. Go get it.")

versus what It Could Be:

("Here's the cereal that you still have to get, just in a more noticeable setting.")
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- but that's semantics. You see enabling, I see persuasion.

 

Didn't say anything of the sort. What I said goes back to the idiots get called on it shit. I called you a douchebag for your chosen phrasing. If you feel the need to say different, its on you. Its neither a misreading of what you said nor is it unrelated to what is being discussed.

No, I sincerely doubt they have. I didn't bother taking them into account, so that's true. But here is an easy way to find out. We can put a poll somewhere.

Also as to me not giving a fuck, I've got more than a dozen PM's in a conversation with Thurner alone that say otherwise.

And yet you did. Someone else might have accused you of seeing truth in what was a very obvious joke. But I'll assume they're an idiot and I wasn't joking.

But hey, if you've got a confession, I'll make it easy and go first: I am a narcissistic pedophile with an inherent need to be the center of attention at every waking moment. I lack any form of wit and must rely on tired memes and forced punchlines like a teen hooker relies on coat hanger abortions.

Should I leave a [/joke] here for you or are you picking that one up on your own? (Btw: Just because I said it was a joke does not mean i retract it. Fucking Arrogant Hipster douchenozzle.)

No, we are not misunderstanding. They are and have always been able to do so, yes.

Where we are making the misunderstanding is that you seem to believe that the ability to do so will alter absolutely anything at all. 99% of DLP understands if your post goes too far, it will be deleted regardless of topic, agreement, or area.

And yet I still see deleted posts turning up. I still see people arguing over inane bullshit that is better left let lie.

Here's the thing that I see, though. If we make this the current policy and we make welcomes proactive, everyone now knows it. So the ones who were worst in the flaming before, know it. They know how to find this new system, and its not in the least bit foolproof. It doesn't discourage flaming, it doesn't encourage being fair or welcoming or friendly. It's just moving the process to somewhere "less friendly" to find.

And this really is only three clicks away from any new post, as well. So any argument that "The ones who will, will; the ones who wont, wont" doesn't sit because its all the same thing, with only one minor change. They made the effort to go to the intros to do it. They will continue. I've been here for six damn years. We went through two different attempts at reputation.

Why? Because niggers can't have a good thing and not fuck it up for everyone.

Here is the entire debate summed up in three words: Pessimism versus optimism. You think thinks will change; I know they wont. I'll be generous and give you three months. But sincerely don't think DLP can pretend to be cuddly bunnies and welcoming for that long.

It wouldn't. That only appears when you're in the library if I remember right. And as I did create and delete a new account the other day to test welcome PM's and notifications, there are a separate list of them when you first join.

It can very easily be done in a way to not interfere with the library.

Protip: This is nothing but a circular debate as there can never be an end.

I will now clarify: This is why I keep mentioning reputation, Blaise. It is exactly the same thing. You had a nice little green button for positive and a red one for bad posts.

Wanna know how that turned out? See a green and red button anymore?

Exactly.

Why I have an issue with what you are suggesting is that you aren't addressing anything. You're just moving it. Making it a tad harder to find.

Reputation was both public and private. You know who was dissing you and why. It didn't matter because you could still make someone look like a fucking retard with a few friends and a few minutes of work. It was just another post count. How popular are you, who thinks your retarded, how can I make fun of you and seem cooler.

I could have deleted every post you made, I could have edited out every word and replaced them with hipster quotes or "derpderpderp" 10k times over. Its not gonna stop you from thinking one way or another nor is it going to discourage you from posting.

You're just gonna think I'm an ass and either take it up with someone else or say "get fucked" and just leave. And to be perfectly honest with you, Blaise, thats all I see this idea of yours doing. "Get fucked" and leave, or just more shit, but a new location. Because it has happened before.

Pessimism versus optimism. Nothing more. (BTW, BlOZie, that's a terrible example. And not just because you already have your damn cereal. Mostly because it looks like a tube of shit [Literal feces] and I am persuaded to do nothing more than throw it away.)

 

Something I'd like would be an option to ignore a thread. That way when I'm checking for new posts, I don't have to see the same damn threads I don't give a shit about.

EDIT: Lol, oops Militis.

 

I already said that, on the first page. :facepalm

 

What about sub-categories within library categories? Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

 

For some reason it seemed much more relevant at this point in the thread.

 

I love how there's a mobile iphone version of the site. That said it would be great to have the Library List accessible in such a format as well.

Just a small thing.

 

Someone might want to check the code for registering new users. My e-mail for this file got locked down, so I've been trying to register my new one here on DLP, only to constantly get this message that "The string you entered for the image verification did not match what was displayed." Also, this error occurs on the Contact Us page as well, which could be problematic.

 

You can already get email alerts, but I think they are only once a day and you don't get another email if you didn't check the thread - kinda like email alerts work on other topics. I'm looking at you FFN Theme thread.

 

A way to view stories in the Library List by rating, as opposed to the only option of viewing them sorted alphabetically would be great. It'd certainly save myself and lots of other members lots of time when searching for quality reading material buried in between some not-as-well done stories.

edit: I agree with KrazQ's below post as well. Otherwise it shouldn't be in the Library, rather in the Neglected Stories list.

 

Speaking of ratings, show it only if there are at least 5 (or 10?) votes.