They say they do anyway. Chances are, it's going to be some overarching goal you have to accomplish or some shit like that. Not any real guided storyline. Face it, there's practically no realistic way to make a million people saviors of the Republic or whatever the goal is for the good guys.

 

And I really, really hope you are completely wrong with that. I've got some faith, it being bioware, but they're recent stuff has shaken my resolve.

Either way, will check it out regardless.

 

Their recent stuff?

Far as I'm aware, Dragon Age 2 has been the only screw up Bioware has ever released and that's because EA made them.

Old Republic has none of the signs shown that it was a rush game, in fact it seems like the opposite.

Despite Bioware never having made a MMO before; I'm optimistic. They've never been stupid as far as gaming companies have gone, and I'm hoping they don't plan to start now.

 

You seriously think EA can't fuck this up? I wish i was so naive.

 

EA can fuck anything up. It just depends how much control they have over the game development. I'm guessing a lot because of how big this game's supposed to be.

 

Video games are still legal in Australia?

 

I'm just skeptical that this will be better than Rift, which is shaping up to be a pretty fucking awesome game 6 months past release, despite the annoying bugs that still crop up.

It'll take a damn good game to pull me away at this point, and I've never been a huge Star Wars fan so that doesn't really earn it bonus points in my book.

 

wut?

/10char

 

I can't believe anyone considers Dragon Age 2 a fuck up considering it's a game that is better than 99% of the others ones that have come out in the last calendar year. Perspective is nice. Even Christopher Nolan has the Prestige, which is still miles ahead of a large volume of the pig shit produced by Hollywood.

I thought it was fun and it remains the sole game I have completed (of about twenty titles purchased, e.g. LA Noire, Red Dead Redemption) since StarCraft II last year. The company, especially the MMO, is still under the direction of the people who made Bioware great in the first place [ Tehan ].

I really can't think of anything else other than that the nay-saying is understandable from the point that every MMO other than WoW has been unsuccessful or pretty much garbage. My point is what I tell Paimon: "I can't wait until the game comes out so we can find something to bitch about."

Gamers in general are an unhappy sort.

 

To horribly misquote some reviewer or another, "if it had been named 'Guy-named-Hawke-kills things' we would all have liked it much better."
The problem with Dragon Age II isn't that it's a bad game, (it's decent, I suppose, even if combat mechanics piss me the fuck off) the problem is that it's a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins, and did not live up to the series name at all. It was a severely inferior product. And if SW:ToR is to survive, it can't be 'decent' like DA II, it has to be fucking brilliant like DA: O, and Bioware has demonstrated that DA II is the kind of game they make under EA.

 

And I can´t believe that somebody would think of DA 2 as a decent or even good game. The only redeeming factor are the the characters which were funny(And even there are still bugs...) The rest of the game looks like the production of it was stopped halfway through the game. And the end is just terrible.
And I am really interested which RPG´s that came out you find so bad that DA 2 looks like a good game to you.


But back to topic, I hope that SW:KoR will be great and the things I have seen so far justify my hope. It seems like the story is very important and I know that Bioware has some very good story-writers so there should be no problem. World-building and characters seem also ok and the graphic doesn´t interest me that much. And even seems like you can play the main/story quest without any help which is a plus in my opinion because I like to play/test a game without some kid crying about something. But even if the game is crap I will probably play for a time because it is about SW and that is enough for me.

 

The problem with Bioware, is EA owns the company now. And EA Games are a bunch of stupid assholes who only really care about money the past 6 or so years. I have no doubt in my mind that if EA starts getting involved in this new game, it's going to become a huge fuck-up just like their last few games have been.

 

The problem with EA isn't caring only about money. Every company's number one goal is to make money.

The problem with EA is that they go about it in an aggressively stupid manner. Rushing out games, rushing to make DLC for the rushed games, more meaningless DLC, rushed sequels.
It's a never-ending cycle of half finished products.

They've yet to learn that you catch more flies with honey. EA has the resources (capital, talent, size) to make fucking awesome games. They just don't give a shit, preferring to churn out more, instead of better. They act as if the market is going to disappear -- while gaming only started becoming mainstream in the last five to ten years, and in my opinion, will grow a lot more in the coming decade.

Blizzard on the other hand, has been milking its customers for the past fifteen years. And the customers are actually (mostly) thankful about it.

What's Blizzard's standard response when asked about release dates?
"It will be ready when it's ready."

Yeah.

 

...You mean just like Bioware have been with TOR?

 

..thankfully, Bioware has managed to retain some small degree of autonomy. Probably due to most of their games being both commercially and critically successful.

Notice the "small" part. EA's influence can be seen especially in DA II & ME II.

There's not much they can do about it either. EA has bought/opened around twenty new studios in the last decade. They've closed fifteen others.

 

What the fuck is MA II? Unless you mean Mass Effect 2, then in that case shut up. ME2 was/is awesome.

On topic, TOR has been in development for at the least 5 years. This game cannot be considered rushed by any stretch of the word.

 

Look, ME2 was a simplified, boring fetch quest repeated about fifteen times. ME1 made me want to save the galaxy, ME2 didn't make me feel anything. I wonder if that was Bioware or EA? I'd like to think EA.

Also, long developments in no way mean the final game will be good, eg. Duke Nukem Forever.

Personally, this game makes me excited, but I don't think it can live up to the hype of the original, or be as engaging a game world, simply because its an MMO and it won't support the same kind of immersion.

 

Yet Bioware's last five-year development gave us DA: O.
Besides, long wait times can result in good, too: ask any korean about SCII.

 

Dragon Age: Origins was a broken piece of shit redeemed only by its story. Not the best example!

 

Yes, I agree with you, but you missed one other small item: They don't really care much about their customers either, to be completely honest with you.

Battlefield 2 is an excellent example for this. The 1.50 patch was released, and they fucked some of it up with the patch, and they're yet to even fix it.

The other problem is, that they don't give 2 shits about games when they reach a certain age, say 4 years old. They cut off support for it and if people bitch about it, all they do is "tough shit." This is why I quit buying their games since 2006 or '07. I hate their stupid company, and I honestly wish it goes into the damn toilet.