Are you saying you wouldn't bang a MILF...?

 

Godwin, I summon thee!

Only because people actively look for a reason to bring it up.

And that last sentence is the key, and also the reason it (advancements) will probably remain the province of the wealthy.

Doctor: Expensive test to see if the baby is coming along okay?
Patient: Yes, please.
Doctor: Rich? Really good insurance?
Patient: Umm...
Doctor: /shrugs/ Bummer.

Later, when the advantages have been quantified and the price has dropped, more people will have access to the testing. But by then, the science will have reached the point of not only detecting the bad, but correcting it.

Doctor: Routine test shows baby isn't coming along okay.
Patient: Oh no, doc.
Doctor: Expensive genetic treatment to correct all that?
Patient: Yes, please.
Doctor: Rich? Really good insurance?
Patient: Umm...
Doctor: /shrugs/ Bummer.

Later, when the advantages have been quantified and the price has dropped, more people will have access to the gene therapy. But by then, the science will have reached the point of not only correcting the bad, but letting the well-heeled pick and choose a designer baby with all the bells and whistles.

Doctor: Gene therapy has corrected your baby's DNA back to average.
Patient: Isn't that great, doc?
Doctor: Expensive genetic tinkering to make baby tall, thin, smart, athletic, lovely?
Patient: Yes, please!
Doctor: Really rich? Politically connected? Congressional-level insurance?
Patient: Umm...
Doctor: /shrugs/ Bummer.

Scrib said it best, but yeah, how is having more information not a good thing? And for the record, I don't think the majority of people would base any decision on "socially acceptable" but rather on their own abilities to care for the child, whether physically, mentally, or financially.

Here's what I mean. Suppose a couple is going to have a baby and the test comes back saying Down's or spina bifida or severe mental retardation. Now, if this is an older, more financially secure couple who've been trying to have a baby for a long time, their decision is probably going to favor keeping the baby. If this were a young, struggling couple, perhaps with other children already, their situation is going to affect that go/no-go decision differently.

Maybe both couples decide to abort because they know/think/believe they aren't mentally hardy enough to deal with a child who'll remain very much a dependent for the rest of their lives. Maybe they both really want that baby and accept the accompanying hardships as part of the uncertainty inherent in life. Maybe a couple in this situation believes it's a sign from god to [insert justification here] and become ecstatic and grateful.

That's their choice, but I imagine the only "socially acceptable" effects would be to steer people in smaller communities to have the baby regardless, because the other church members would judge the fuck out of them if they didn't. Perhaps the real opposition to this kind of thing (choice, that is) is because the people who'll end up deciding to have the baby no-matter-what are the ones who don't want to be a few years down the road, struggling and toiling and sacrificing for a severely disabled child, and have the thought of "did I make the right decision?" pop into their heads during a particular sleepless night.

 

Right. That's why you shouldn't read Oedipus Flower. Because of Lily's authority abuse.

I get your point, but I doubt there's even single fic on FF.net that includes Lily using her parental authority to force Harry into having sex with her.

And if there is, I want to read it.

 

Rule 34

/10char

 

Didn't Big D write a few chapters about something like that? Oedipus Mirror or something.

 

I guess, but like I said, this matter is quite personal to me, so my views on it are a little irrational.


I don't know; mother/son incest seems mighty creepy to me. Not necessarily because it's incest (although the idea of someone banging their own mother does produce a very visceral, negative response in me), but because of the whole authority dynamic. A parent or older relative is someone in a position of authority, and thus it could not possibly be an equal relationship.

On the other hand, stuff like Harry/his hypothetical sister doesn't weird me out anywhere near as much, since with two siblings with no real authority over one another, the undertone of coercion isn't there, particularly if the age difference is minor or nonexistent.

What you're still basically saying though, is you wouldn't bang a MILF, because they are older, therefore an authority figure.

To quote someone I know: 'I don't fucking care what they do or who they are. Sex is just too fucking awesome for that'.

 

Very true, but saying that some people shouldn't be allowed to have things because others can't afford it seems fundamentally wrong to me. The rich are always going to have advantages over the poor until there are no rich or poor. While this will probably increase the gap between the rich and the poor and reduce social mobility in a lot of ways, it'll probably only be a temporary issue - there are hard limits to what you can do with genetic engineering and social/moral issues that go alongside these that will prevent the industry from going forward but still allow the process in question to reduce in price.

This is a bit of a derail, however.

 

I'm talking about the general connotation of mother/son incest, not specifics such as how Harry/Lily is treated in the fandom. I'll admit that with the way H/Lily is treated in the fandom, I avoid it simply because fuck it, a guy banging his own mom is squick for me (both from a naturally-ingrained psychological perspective and also because it brings up those issues we're discussing, even if the actual story doesn't touch them).

...but even then, there's still an aspect of coercion in OP, since Lily is emotionally vulnerable and Harry's a silver-tongued dark wizard.

 

I kicked it off yonks ago and Big D adopted it after. It's here.

 

Yeah, and it hasn't been touched since.

(psst).

 

An wild story link appears!

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4347337/1/Jakosta
It is a oneshot.

(Beware the DM/HP ending)

 

No, no, no. That's very disturbing and terrifying with Dom!Insane!Lily alone, not to mention that Harry prefers buttsecks with Malfoy to banging girls. Just... no

 

lolwut? Mild M-preg? What's mild concerning M-preg? Is he half-pregnant or what?

 

Maybe he aborts shortly into the pregnancy?

 

...I've always wondered about how the magic behind M-Preg would work. For it to even make an ounce of logical sense in-universe, it would have to be some kind of transfiguration potion or spell... but given the fact that human transfiguration is immensely difficult, and taking into account that the male body is so thoroughly unsuited for childbearing, it seems like something extremely likely to kill the target from the inside out in a really gruesome way if performed incorrectly.

 

Fullstop-

Try again!

 

Fan of incest pairings ran across this story http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5115850/9/Like_A_Dark_Lord_Only_Crunchy, Harry/Sister. Long since discontinued but decent guilty pleasure fic.

Re Edit: Ok ummm fuck ignore the guilty pleasure fic recommendation. A badly written story but it's incest so it counts.

 

Oh, come on. It's disgusting, yes, but quite interesting from an analytical point of view, like blowflies, or those wasps that lay eggs inside spiders.

 

Yeah, I was just trying my hand at being witty. The problem is that m-preg is theoretically possible in real life, so I can't even push from that angle.

 

Please tell me you're kidding.

...

You know what, point proven. I should never have made this thread to begin with. Somebody lock this mess before somebody derails the topic further and mentions the Nazis and m-preg in the same fucking post. D=