Thralls, yes. Renfields, no. In the raid on Mavra's scourge, they were all Renfields, not thralls.

The difference being thralls are humans under a compulsion, while Renfields are functionally braindead and exist as extensions of the vampire that created them (I think, I'd have to re-read the book to be sure).

In either case, killing Renfields does not violate the First Law.

 

I wonder how happy will be Fix when he will hear about the new Winter Knight. I predict he will try to kill Harry the moment he will leave Mab's court on any errand.

 

I doubt it; the Winter and Summer Courts are usually in more of a cold war (if one will forgive the term) with each other than outright open warfare.

That's not to mention that Fix wasn't too sure he could take on pre-Winter Knight Harry, and the fact that Fix and Lily are both generally shown as friendly towards, him, though wary of his ties to Winter.

 

I don't think Fix will die for a while. If HE knew he was weaker than pre-knight!Harry, then Mad must have an inkling now of how powerful the two of them are, surely?

So I would've thought Mad will want Fix around for a while, so she has the better position. So she may not exactly protect Fix, but she doesn't have to worry about trying to get him killed.

And I think if Fix does get killed by Harry, it'll be Fix's fault - he's been around the Fae too long (or something like that), and follows Fae logic, to kill Murph or somesuch. Harry will get a mite bit upset.

 

I'm wondering how Harry being the winter knight will influence his affiliation with the White Council. At the moment they think he's dead, but that may not last for long.

 

I suspect the Faerie Knights are one of those cases where the White Council would love to extend their jurisdiction over them, but don't have the power to do so. If they got their hands on him and felt that they could try him without invoking Mab's wrath, they would, but they probably can't.

 

I thought the Faerie Knights were each part of their respective Courts, and the Courts are signatories of the Accords. I really don't think the White Council could survive, let alone win, another war.

 

Mab would stomp the White Council so badly that there wouldn't be a White Council around afterwards.

 

That depends on if the White Council knows her Name.

 

Not to mention that the Faerie Queens have a lot of limitations on how much of their power they can directly use in the real world; that's why they have Knights in the first place.

 

And given her current state, I don't think she would put up as well a fight as even a couple of years prior. That assault to her main place in Winter Court territory probably caused some increased trouble to her already apparent instability.

 

I'm sure I remember reading a WoJ that Mab, on her own, would probably have an equal amount of power as the ENTIRE White Council (so every member, not just the wardens), but only if they knew her name.

If she could (and, oh wait, she can) muster up any support, then the white council would die. If she was in Winter, they'd die.

If she pointed out to Titania that the WC had started attacking her, and that Summer would be next...

Humanity would die.

 

That would be pretty risky course of action though; there's a very good chance that Titania would actually join in on a White Council attack against Winter. After all, Summer is going to be the biggest beneficiary of anything that weakens Winter.

 

But it would be inevitable - as Harry pointed out in (I think) SK: if one of the Faerie Courts got a substantial control, then the weather on Earth would shift, and everyone would die.

If the White Council wiped out the Winter Court (or even just weakened it), they'd have to do the same to Summer, to preserve the balance.

 

It would certainly be their objective, but there's nothing to say that they could.

The way this was raised was that Summer would help the WC against Winter. In the war against Summer that you are correct in assuming must follow, who would they ask for aid from?

Besides, wiping out Winter would have significantly strengthened Summer, so it wouldn't even be the case that they face an opponent of the same strength. They'd literally have to fight two wars - one against Winter, where they'd have it really tough, and one against Summer, which would be nigh impossible - and that's without factoring in the losses they would take in the first war.

The WC would probably realise this and not attack, but if they do, Summer is smart enough to figure it out too. Thus, it certainly is in Summer's interests to help the WC, as the worst that could happen is that they have to deal with a relatively minor threat a little down the road.

 

Which is why they'r either have to do the two wars at once, or, what I think more likely, just not start one in the first place.

If us internetpeoples can figure it out, you'd hope at least one wizard would be able to.

 

Remember that if the White Council were to take on Mab and then Titania they would need both of their Names. That's not a small task in and of itself.

 

The part where Butcher said that, he said that they'd need every wizard on Earth fighting with them as well as having Her name to just to survive the throwdown. One after the other? Fuck no. And that's without even going into how the fuck they go about getting her name without her getting wind of their search and curbstomping them as they are - divided and without her Name.

 

If Mab had any doubts as to her ability to defeat them, she could always bring along Lea for back up. She's frequently described as the second most powerful fae in Winter, so she can't be lacking in power.