I remember one similar in which the dursley abuse was over the top and the angst coming in spades.

If you write that idea, Harry should be a bad-ass and ecentric wizard.

 

Just wondering if anyone else has really given some thought to a serious Timetraveler!Voldemort. I gave my own go of it back in the respective May(IIRC) contest and opinions were that it could use some heavy refining, but an interesting thought.

It was intended to be Future Voldemort arrives in around the 1945 timeframe, maybe 1950 or so and sets to work partnering up with Tom Riddle/Young Voldemort to keep him from screwing things up so badly over the next several decades.

The effort of going back so far would have diminished the older Voldemort's power and health for a time, and he would have been rendered partly insane from his time trying to regain a body and the Horcrux creation process in all, but he knows that he is fairly unhinged and to balance things out would have to rely on the moderately saner and competent younger self.

What would become of Voldemort if history were altered, and namely to his Horcruxes in the old timeline/world, was still being decided on; should what he left behind be erased to make way for the new events being shaped, but he would ultimately be safe since he was no longer directly tied into it?

 

That looks like Tom Riddle redemption, Zenzao. The whole oh-Christ-I-become-that?

Also, in that was actually fem!Tom who'd made a Horcrux and will look purty and timeless for ever, it means I have more Shota!Harry stuff.

DDDDDDDDDDDD

 

It could immediately sense a fertile womb, genetically predisposed toward standing up to frequent, narrowly-spaced pregnancies.


Probably more practical than a soul bond, except for the part where, having reached its goal, it erupts from the host's chest.

Er... Everyone here has read the story where the monster in Harry's chest is, in fact, a xenomorph, right?

 

I must say... You are a creep (or pedobear in disguise).

 

I don't recall ever reading one myself, but I don't know that I have enough ideas to even make it worth attempting. I have other more interesting plots at the moment.

 

Well, it wasn't intended for Riddle to go to the light side or anything of the sort, he would still have created at least one if not two Horcruxes by the time he met Voldemort, but the process wouldn't have dulled his mind and rationality as much as the older Voldemort's and he probably wouldn't go on to make any more until he was reasonably sure it wouldn't cost him.

Voldemort was meant to be more of a guideline to what to do to keep their rule from being challenged as it would have been by Dumbledore, the Potters, etc in the seventies if things weren't changed.

 

I read one where after they both come back in time, Harry was raised by Dumbledore. Harry basically used it as an excuse to piss around. Literally, sometimes.

Harry raised by Dumbledore would perhaps be interesting, but not likely. He heads up the judicial system, the only school in the UK we are aware of, and is a represents Britain's interests at the international level, and the organisation in which he does that is one he is at a high level in. In canon we see (at least once) Dumbledore having to make a decision as to which job is more important - PS, going to London for something.
He really doesn't have the time to raise a child on top of that. He would have to drop at least one of those jobs, maybe two. This means he wouldn't have as much political clout at a later date to protect Harry when things go tits up.

That said, if you could justify it, I'd like to read it.

 

I once played around with a plot idea where Dumbledore didn't immediately realise how Harry had survived. Because of that, he never goes for the whole Petunia Love Protection thing and decides the only sure way to keep Harry alive is by protecting him himself. By the time he realises there was a different option, too much time has passed for that protection to be created.

In this story he would make McGonagall Headmistress (whe would probably change some things in Hogwarts, although Dumbledore would probably forbid her from firing Trelawney). He'd realise that, while he might be an excellent teacher, he's not much of a parent and takes Sirius (and possibly Remus) with him to raise the boy. Because of the lack of the whole Love Protection thing, Dumbledore decides not to put his trust in Harry's Love and Guts and trains him from a young age.

I didn't really think of much more than that, mostly because I simply wanted a good reason for Dumbledore to take and train Harry. I think I actually came up with this thanks to that story where Harry is forced out of hiding with the GoF. I could actually see Voldemort do that if he truly couldn't find Harry.

However, while writing this, I came up with a much better idea. Fuck Sirius and Remus. Instead, Dumbledore takes Trelawney with him to protect her (and thus the prophecy). Cue fifteen or sixteen years later (different from canon because of the lack of Dumbledore) when Harry is forced out of hiding with the GoF. Now Harry, raised by Trelawney and trained by Dumbledore, has to enter a tournament with new tasks, different opponents and Voldemort waiting in the shadows.

Pair him up with Luna, sit back and enjoy.

 

You know, would be a barrel of laughs.

I was thinking that Dumbledore wouldn't really realise that he needed to drop some of his jobs to raise a child and Harry would thusly end up spending a lot of time in the Headmaster's office at Hogwarts or at Dumbledore's manor (because awesome wizards with tons of jobs all need a manor). Harry would wind up being a bit eccentric and easy going, (a lot like Luna) heck maybe Dumbledore reads the Quibbler, that would explain a lot actually.

So we'd have a Luna!Harry. Might be funny, but I don't know that I could write it to any acceptable level.

 

It'd probably be best to take the route of light hearted humor and adventure. Maybe a bit like "Harry Potter and The Forest of Valsomething, that one in Albania" from Enembee. You can get rid of the Horcruxes in the backstory and focus completely on Harry and the way he deals with Hogwarts and the tasks, with Voldemort as some sort of Final Boss.

I can't even imagine the crazy shit that's going to come out of his mouth when you combine Trelawney's half assed predictions, Dumbledore's vague advice and the Quibbler.

 

What if we added Luna to the mix as Harry's best friend because Xenophilius and Luna were the only other people Dumbledore would let meet Harry because he was afraid anyone else might try to hurt him? Maybe Xeno and Albus were old firends? That would explain a lot too.

 

I don't think Dumbledore would be that afraid to let Harry get hurt. I see their relationship more like the relationship they have in "The Prisoner's Chipher" that's in the WBA at the moment. Only with a motherfigure Trelawney thrown in. Either way, having Harry be best friend with Luna prior to the story feels like the set-up for a bad romance. I can, however, see at least some sort of contact or friendship between Dumbledore and Xenophilius because of the Deathly Hollows. That should probably be kept to a minimum though.

 

I could see a friendship being there, although Luna would have to be done well for it. After all, nobody believes much of anything the Lovegood's say, so Luna is the PERFECT friend for Harry.

 

This was originally an idea I had, and threw on irc. Then with Klael's invaluable help, and Taure's advice, this became what it is. It's quite different from what was thrown on irc about a week ago.

Main divergence point: Dumbledore joined with Grindelwald after Ariana’s death. Their run of terror was much more longstanding in canon, resulting now in a more fractured, wartorn, and isolationist magical world. Voldemort was one of D+G's Lieutenants, but turned against them when he sensed an opportunity--which just so happened to be when Dumbledore saw the 'error of his ways' and fought and defeated Grindelwald. Voldemort too advantage of this opportunity and defeated Dumbledore as well, using his regard to push his popularity with the Wizarding public in Britain and become Minister of Magic.

Secondaries:
Voldemort isn’t as wacko. He pushes the Pureblood agenda, but it's unclear whether he genuinely cares about blood purity or if it's merely a method of controlling his supporters.

Harry isn’t Tom Riddle, but he’s more intelligent and colder than in canon.

Notes:

-Similar to Prince of the Dark Kingdom, promotion of having children by the ministry has increased the size of the pureblood population (at least amongst the 'lower classes' of purebloods and halfbloods). Muggleborns aren't allowed into Hogwarts, or indeed even the magical world at all. New muggleborns are killed as soon as they evidence magical abilities. The ones who are already in the magical world are more or less tolerated, though they are monitored and relegated to second-class roles in society and no one is allowed to interact with the muggle world (officially; higher purebloods still kill muggles for sport and, presumably, take other liberties when it strikes their fancy).

-Because of the long, devastating war with D+G, the various nations of magical people are insular and don't interfere with others' affairs, since they're still reeling from the conflict.

-Voldemort is NEVER known as Voldemort to the public. He's Minister Riddle, although he still uses the moniker Voldemort in private/with trusted 'Death Eaters'.


Possible histories/plot ideas regarding Dumbledore, Grindelwald:

-Dumbledore joined with Grindelwald after Ariana’s death.
-Eventually after the two successfully conquer Magical Britain, Dumbledore begins to feel remorse. For some reason, he takes Riddle on as a student. Dumbledore asks Riddle to help him take out/imprison Grindelwald. He does, but after Dumbledore is weakened, he turns on Dumbledore. Either Dumbledore is killed or imprisoned. Imprisoned allows for some decent interaction w/ HP later on.
-D&G take over. Riddle trained by Dumbledore. Without being asked, he kills both of them, and insinuates himself in the public mind as the savior of Britain after eliminating the two.
-Dumbledore, Grindelwald have Voldemort as a lieutenant in the Ministry after they've taken it over. At the same time as Harry's in hogwarts, Riddle stages a coup and takes over. It could be done at the end of a school year, giving a solid cliffhanger, when BOOM! it's announced that Grindelwald and Dumbledore are both dead (either or bother may actually be in prison, to provide opportunity for a meet-up later on).

Plots/backstory involving HP:

Due to the laws after the D+G and/or Riddle takeover, it's illegal for Purebloods to marry Muggleborns (ergo, James + Lily cannot happen). James marries a pureblood woman, but has an affair with Lily. His Pureblood wife may know, and may not care (since it's probably something people do in high society, this having affairs thing). However, when she learns about Harry, who is James' oldest son and (therefore) legal heir, she's incredibly pissed and leaks this info to the people who eliminate muggleborns and tries to have Lily and Harry killed. James finds out, and is there with Lily trying to get her to run when the group shows up. Lily and James are killed in a fight, but when the people come and find Harry, they don't take him. He's put in a group home/orphanage (symbolism/parallel with Riddle?), and eventually goes to Hogwarts with no idea of his parentage. Once he's at Hogwarts, he is recognized by his older sister (who remembers what her father looks like and has some idea of why he was killed). She hates him, but he eventually ends up saving her life which turns her around (maybe grudgingly, but definitely it's something they keep secret for political reasons).

There's some drama where no one's really sure who should have control of the Potter family wealth; somehow, Goblins get Harry's blood (possibly when Harry's setting up his own bank account) and recognize him as the heir to the Potter family. This causes quite an amount of friction with James' wife, who's still a Potter by Marriage.

Anyway, in spite of all this, Harry is the heir apparent to the House of Potter, despite being a halfblood. It’s a major scandal at Hogwarts, he’s treated badly by most of the 'higher status' purebloods, a lot of people want to marginalize him, but some don't because they see him as an interesting political tool with future benefits, and a few reformers/rebels who want to use him as a symbol of pureblood arrogance.

Character differences: Harry is colder, more intelligent. Dumbledore is a bit colder. Generally most people are more jaded, but not all super-dark-and-angsty. Riddle is a bit saner.

Conflicts:

1. Harry vs. PB Widow + fam. who want him disowned, etc. The wizarding world is wary of warring with the Goblins, so they respect the Goiblins' management of wizarding finances, but the Potter fortune thing could cause friction betweenm the Wizards and the Goblins.

2. Harry vs. Riddle. He eventually learns why he grew up without a family, and blames Riddle for it all.

Plotholes/Questions.

Dumbledore + Grindelwald extended history--how in depth into their story is it necessary to delve?

Who raises Harry?

Differing ideologies of D&G vs. Voldemort--who's a pureblood supremacist, who just wants power?

The professors: Dumbledore conceivably wasn't one; who was? Who is? Did things like the Chamber of Secrets opening still happen?

'Marauders': Did they meet? Were they in the same houses? Were they friends/enemies? There's potential for Sirius to still be the head of House Black, but not be a pureblood fanatic. Sirius could also be a guerrilla fighter, possibly on the run or in azkaban for his past resistance to Riddle (wouldn't that be an interesting parallel?).

Should Dumbledore be released/escape somehow, become a mentor to Harry? Or remain imprisoned as a figurehead/inspiration to others, which Harry uses for his own agenda. Keep in mind that Dumbledore, as well as Grindelwald’s names carry intense stigma for the majority of the wizarding world now so it would be a private sort of mentorship.

 

So... a few parts of Harry Potter and the Greater Good, a dash of Prince of the Dark Kingdom, a tablespoon of personal drama, shake, stir, and serve cold?

I like it, but only if you focus a lot more character interactions. Worldbuilding has been successfully done in PotDK, morality is being done in HP & tGG, but interpersonal interactions is something that this story can focus on. Obviously you need the other two, but yeah.

 

I like it, although it is a significant divergence. I played with something somewhat similar but scrapped it later, the world building was something I didn't want to deal with.

 

I don't think you have to spend a TON of time worldbuilding outside of Harry's interactions with his fellow students. Most of it's going to take place in Hogwarts, I imagine.

 

I got this bunny last night, from watching one of awesome old movies from 90's. So here it is: Harry PotterxTerminator.

Following timeline in original Terminator (the first movie), Skynet went online on August 4, 1997. On August 29 it gained self-awareness, and the panicking operators, realizing the extent of its abilities, tried to pull the plug. Skynet perceived the attempt to deactivate it as an attack and came to the conclusion that all of humanity would attempt to destroy it. To defend itself, it determined that humanity should be exterminated.

Before it could be deactivated, Skynet launched nuclear missiles under its command at Russia, to which Russia responded by firing many of its missiles back at the United States and its allies. As a result of the nuclear exchange, over three billion humans were killed in just minutes.

Britain didn't leave untouched. As one of US main allies, it got one of the worst. Everything destroyed - from London to Godric's Hollow. Radiation ruled the land. Hogwarts and Hogsmeade's residents were all dead. Judgment Day had happened, leaving only few survivors from british wizards. Harry Potter is one of them, along with three other people - Hermione, Lupin, and maybe Flitwick. Voldemort disappeared, no one knew where he was and no one cared about him anymore - not in this kind of devastation. Wizards all over the world, not prepared for this kind of surprise, ended like their non-magical counterpart: dead by Nukes, or enslaved by machines. Harry, Hermione, Lupin, and Flitwick chose to hide far from Britain, far from Europe - maybe in some deep, remote Asian mountains - because there were not much they could do against thousands armies of machines.

It was year 2000 and they were still in hiding. Harry heard news over radio about humans rebellion that occurred on America (John Connor and his bands of soldiers). Sick of hiding and waiting, he decided that if Muggles could fight back, then they could too. But the other question came: what could four wands do?

Simple. If they couldn't fought Skynet head-on, then destroy it before it was activated. Use the Time-Turner, go back to the past, prevent Skynet from being activated, or even invented, by Muggles.

Hermione objected this. She said it's impossible to change the past, that Time-Turner doesn't work that way. But Harry kept pushing, and after some quarrels she finally agreed. Lupin and Flitwick agreed, too. They're just two old men, weary and had lost so many things right before their eyes - Lupin saw Tonks ripped by bullets, Flitwick saw Hogwarts' students died from radiation - and would be happy to do anything for getting rid of their guilt.

They went to England, to the only place they know storing Time-Turners: Department of Mysteries, deep under London's ground. After long journeys by non-magical means (radiation still running all over Europe, and somehow it interfered all magical means of transportation), in which they were intercepted by Non-Humanoid Hunter Killers in many kind, only Harry who finally made it to Department of Mysteries. Not wanting his friends' sacrifices went in vain, he found one of the Time-Turners - buried deep under the ruins, but still fully intact - and used it.

He landed in year 1995, two years before Skynet's rising. Disguising himself as Muggle, he made it to America and began hunting the one person he thought responsible for all the destruction he'd seen in the future: Miles Bennett Dyson.

You all already know that 1995 is also the the timeline of Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Throw 10 years old John Connor, Sarah Connor, T-800, and T-1000 in, and the story can continue from there: would Harry finally kill Dyson? Or would he join Sarah and John Connor to destroy Cyberdine? Could he, together with T-800, destroy T-1000? Then, If he succeed in destroying T-1000 and Cyberdine - therefore preventing Judgment Day from happen - what will became of him? A remain of terrible future world who didn't really exist at all?



EDIT: Harry here is still the canon!Harry that we know. Harry in 1997 could not make Fiendfyre, and T-1000 surely could not be destroyed by Avada Kedavra or Blasting Curses.

EDIT2: I know all the talks about Wizards vs Muggle, Wands vs Bullets that had happened here. That's why I make the point: Skynet's attack is very surprising, sudden, and brutal. In a fair open war, nothing can beats wands. But a surprise Nuclear Attack over London? Diagon and Knockturn Alley will be mopped like dust - at least that's my opinion.

So... thoughts?

 

I died a little inside.:awesome

And honestly I can't see a Hp/terminator crossover...