Yes compared at the same age, but let's be honest it doesn't mean nothing when magic is involved, and he hasn't surpassed Tom when compared to the same age. He may very well rival Riddle, but lets be honest, it is unlikely.

 

What are you talking about? There's no reason to assume his rate of progression will slow down.

 

Remind me again, when did Riddle discover a way of breaking a rule of magic in his second year? I must have missed that in the books.

 

How do we know he didn't, after all even if he did, in Riddles mind he would hve been the only one worthy enough to use, considering how arrogant he is (although he has a right to be arrogant).

 

We really can't compare Dumbledore and Voldemort to Harry and Grindelwald. Unlike the latter two the former were not able to advance at their own pace.

It is only after schooling we can start making fair comparisons, which is probably beyond the scope of this fic.

Except with Grindelwald, we can say that Harry has started to surpass him, and if he manages the solo ward casting, that is the point that he does succeed in doing so.

 

Doubt it, he won't surpass him for years yet, heck after he finishes his schooling THATS when he will start to CATCH UP to him, and I agree that Dumbledore and Tom couldn't advance at their own pace, but really Tom was able to do such complex magic in his fith year, that it is said to be the Darkest and most vile piece of magic in the world, Thats what has me doubting Harry rivals him nevermind surpassing him, but we shall see soon what Harry can truly do at this point in time.

 

I believe that the horcruxes might just be considered so dark because of the fact that it splits your soul. I dont believe that it would be as hard as you make it out to be.

 

Personally I don't think making a horcrux is all that hard to do. The biggest barrier is wanting to do it. In the context of this fic, the second is probably making a receptacle, something Harry has been able to do since first year.

 

Meh, it's not like we actually know how good Tom and Albus actually were during school. Obviously there was a crap load of self teaching going on since Albus was doing crap never seen by OWLS. Also even though Albus was held back he was still a bit better than Grindelwald when they met.



.....It wasn't a porn dude. It was a alligator farm or something. Might have been Dirty Jobs. When they're small that's how they tell.

 

I think he'll only become more powerful around 30+ or start measuring up to them in his late 20s. If you think about it Grindlewald was more powerful, just less skillful.

 

Dumbledore says at the end of book 7 that he was just a shade more skillful than Grindelwald at the time of their duel.

 

I didn't quite mean at their first meeting as much as before the three way duel. When Albus states that he was a shade more skillful it strikes me that he was talking about he was always a shade more skillful rather than Albus speaking purely about their final duel.

Well, if you say so, T3t. I'm not bothering to look it look.

 

Maybe, I don't know. I think the whole thing is kinda irrelevant.

 

Thats what I said T3T, Grindlewald was less skillful, but more powerful.

 

I personally believe at that level of magical intelligence that power wont really help unless you totally dwarf the other person in magical strength.

 

True it would be a close call either way.

 

What exactly is the difference between skill and power in potterverse anyway. To me they are just different styles more than an actual measuring stick. One person will just use more direct attck magic the other tries to overwhelm with the more exotic.

Oh and 17 is way too soon for Harry to be a credible match for Dumbledore or Voldemort. A big part of santi's story is this idea of unrestrained magical potential. Travelling around to find various magics. skills carefully developed and honed after years of experience. If you could match the most skilled at 17 experience would count for little.

 

I like how with Syed gone you all try to make up for the lack of his contributions, but it takes all of you, whereas Syed did it by himself.

 

I actually think that no wizard has more magic or "power" than another in the Potterverse. I think what seperates wizards like Dumbledore/Grindelwald/Voldemort from every other character is a combination of natural talent and a great mind.

And before anyone points it out I'm willing to bet that the spell Dumbledore used in OoTP that caused Harry's hair to stand on end was because of the Elder Wand and not because Dumbledore had more magic than Voldemort.

Meh, magic theory in this fandom isn't possible but that's how I view it.