I should of seen this coming Oz! (Is it bad that I had to think and actually make sure I got it wrong before I wrote it?)

However, a suggestion for the voting system.

Having the most popular at the top clearly biases the results. As does being able to see the amount of votes each idea has.

Is there any way you can just accept the top ideas of the page (the no brainer's really), anything over 100 for example, clear them, and let people choose on the lesser known issues? And remove vote counts if possible.

I know i've decided not to vote on anything that's way ahead of everything else because it'll be implemented with or without my votes.

 

Voted! Nice ideas, liked the WBA Sub-Threads the most!

I agree with Ellisande, allthough in my opinion the did became the most popular because they were the best.

 

The problem with this system is that it allows us to prioritise between good ideas, but it doesn't say much about whether most ideas are good, bad, contentious, or just no-brainers that don't generate much enthusiasm.

I almost wish we could vote down, or give ratings :/.

 

It's obvious that what we need is DLP Uservoice Improvement Thread!

"Yo Dawg, I heard you like Improvements, so I put an Improvements Thread in your Improvements Thread, so you can Improve your Improvements while you Improve your DLP!"

... it's Improve-ception!

 

Okay, seeing as how Bioplague's request is voted the highest at the moment, and assuming Lord Ravenclaw follows through on the exact details....combining the Time Travel and Alternates categories as well as the Independent and General categories...then hopefully I didn't lose an hour of my life.

As of now, to make the combining easier, everything in the Time Travel and Independents sections now include tags stating as much. Save for three in the Independent considering the threads were closed. Added a couple pairings and authors in the Time Travel section, too.

Hope this helps.

 

So, there are two Improvement suggestions that I think can go together:

Unlimited edit time for WBA threads & Threads with sub-threads in the WbA section

If the edit time is unlimited in the WbA section, wouldn't the author be able to post the second chapter in the same post as the first, and so on? It will get blocky, and it won't be perfect, but it will probably be better than having to search through the entire thread.

Or, on a completely different note, perhaps some way to star or ping your chapter posts in the thread that could be accessed from the main forum. That may be just as hard to implement as the first idea, but I thought I'd throw it out there, especially with Better UI for Forum Threads already planned.

 

Glad to have been of help. I do agree with Sesc about the Macabre title, but since we were voting for the changes in all, not parts of them, I still voted for it. I like Independent being in General, since I agree with Bioplague on that. Also with Time-Travel being in Alternate.

 

When I was a noob, I wondered what the point of rating threads on DLP was. It seemed to be almost an e-peen thing that was added on so that OPs could feel good about themselves if they'd made a good thread. It wasn't until later that I realised their significance here. I wouldn't be surprised if some noobs temporarily assumed that the correct method of rating a fic was to write a "x/5 vote" in their posts without realising that they should use the Rate Thread tool instead.

Can we change the "Rate Thread" button to "Rate Fic" in the Library subforum? It'd slightly ease confusion for noobs grasping how DLP works.

I've added it to UserVoice.

 

What I REALLY want is something that doesn't let you rate fics without some sort of review in the thread. But perhaps it's just a dream...

 

This, so much this. The first rating for Apocalypso was a 2, and I had to sit there going 'WAI!?' until someone actually reviewed it.

Of course, the dream would be you can't rate stories/threads unless you've posted in them, but hey ho.

 

Sometimes I've just got nothing to add to a review thread that hasn't already been said. Why should I be repeating well covered ground just to add a rating?

This change would increase the number of tiny posts ["good story 4/5"] in the Library just so that people can register their rating. Forcing people to make a post when they had no intention or desire to write one isn't going to get you better reviews.

Also, you'd be deliberately excluding lurkers from being able to participate in DLP. Just because they're not very vocal doesn't mean that they shouldn't be allowed to take part. What would be the point of it? Does rating without reviewing cause any actual problems on DLP aside from some momentary hand wringing from author/OP when an initial rating is low? DLP doesn't suffer from a lack of opinion. Someone is bound to post shortly.

 

Uh, sure, but the WbA in particular is about helping authors and critiquing their work. What's good, what's bad, etc. Pretty sure Vash just posted updates to the Review and WbA rules that lay that down pretty solidly.

An x/5 isn't helping an author, nor is it critiquing their work. 'I'm giving this x/5 because...' is. Which is the whole point.

 

A fairly wide difference in opinion then. As an author, personally I could give a damn about the vote, it's the critique I want. That's the whole reason I WbA instead of just posting it up on ff.net and linking it in For Review. And, I thought, the whole point in the WbA itself.

Troll or not, a 2/5 is just as unhelpful as a 5/5 to an author if it lacks any sort of justification. Lurkers (and other members) who just swing by a story thread, in either WbA or For Review, and drop a rating without anything to back it up aren't actually contributing a damn thing.

Am I seriously the only one who ignores ratings when looking for a fic to read?