I sort of figure it's time for Dan to show his stuff. Don't see him getting out of the barrier unless summoned to be honest.

 

New chapter is up

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Mindfuck'd.

 

Considering I was reading a topic about how

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Obito could be Tobi

and thought how stupid the OP was, this kinda screws over your head, dosen't it?

 

My bets on

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"Tobi" being Madara's brother.

 

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Tobi being Obito like I always though, there is fact that their names are similar. Tobi 3 last letters make up first three letters in Obito, and 2 last letters in Obito make up two first letters in Tobi. Also his ability to wrap itself is very similar to Kakashi's kamui (Obito eye).

Fantastic chapter with cliff hanging ending

 

I'm seriously confused now.

How is it that Madara knows Nagato, but doesn't know the Edo Tensei? He survived long enough to meet a young Nagato but not long enough to see Tobirama use the jutsu? Makes no fucking sense.

I'm starting to wonder now if Madara managed to clone himself and then got himself killed? Or the super-clone killed him? Blah. I don't get it. Probably just Izuna though.

 

This lends credence to my theory that 'Madara' is really Obito.

I mean, come on. He put the Rinnegan in his Right eye.

WHICH Eye did Obito give to Kakashi, hmm?

Tobi = Obito. I'm calling it now.

 

I think the clone theory is right. We know that (tobi)Madara claimed to have given the rinnegan to Nagato in the first place and complains that Nagato wasted his resurrection on Konoha. And now the real Madara claims to know Nagato and thinks that he has been brought back by Nagato through rinnegan Rinne Tensei technique rather than Edo Tensei.

Maybe Madara acquired the rinnegan eyes somehow and learned they could be used to revive the dead. He was dying (old age/injuries/whatever) so he somehow created a clone of himself in the form of Tobi, probably with Zetsus help. He gave Nagato the eyes with the intention of being resurrected. Then he died, trusting his clone to finish arranging things so that he would be resurrected by Nagatos rinnegan when Nagato was ready and grown up. Ofcourse Naruto screwed that up by convincing Nagato to use his RT on something else.

Tobi may even contain a part of Madaras soul, making him something like a horcrux from HP. We know souls can be cut and just in this/the previous chapter we see that Muu for example was able to split himself in two. Why could Madara not do something similar. Did Tobi not even show Zetsuish properties in the fight against Danzos guards (his arm).

Ofcourse, even if true it brings up questions. Why Nagato. And why does Tobi not resurrect Madara now that he has the rinnegan himself. Unless its a question of chakra. Maybe Nagato as an Uzumaki had extraordinarily high levels of chakra just as Naruto does, and thats required to use RT to bring back someone that died long ago. Tobi cannot do it himself. Atleast not unless he gets a big powerboost or something (juubi?).

 

Am tending towards Izuna myself but I was told that the databooks specially mention that Izuna died fighting as a blind man. No clue whether Kishi keeps faithful to the databooks since I never read them. If he says "screw them" than yeah, calling Izuna. If not, it could be anything/anyone.

 

Kishimoto be trololololing. -__-

If everyone is suggesting someone, I'm saying Tobi is Jiraiya. D8 And making Naruto rise up to the challenge and uniting the nations was his whole plan from the beginning. D8 D=8 D==8 D===8

Yeah, cause at this moment all the other theories except the Obito one sound farfetched to me. I especially liked the name one and lulzed.

 

Uzumaki clan having high level of chakra is fandom, they have strong chakras and all were long-lived. But this with Tobi being Madara clone have some sense, he cloned H. Senju, why not himself being his rival and all that crap?

Even as you though that nothing can surprise you, Kishi makes somehow manage it, there are so many possible paths about identity of Tobi.

@trooper. I also liked my name idea , but seriously plot it's pretty wild right now.

 

It might be that Madara's physical body died, while his sprit lived on because of the ems but it's a bit far-fetched.

 

I'm pretty sure the Tobi-Obito name connection doesn't actually exist in Japanese. It's written with different kanji or something.

Personally, I kind of like the clone idea, but mostly because I like the others less. None really seems to cover all the bases at the moment.

 

Not that far-fetched, actually.

The mechanics behind Orochimaru's immortality jig would be a possibility. The reason he originally regained use of his arms is because he only transfers his mind, leaving the soul behind. And I could have sworn it was actually referred to as a space/time jutsu.

I had wondered for a while if you couldn't just summon Orochimaru version 1.0 to do your bidding if you get your hands on the original body.

Most certainly not definite, but it's better than anything else I have.

 

We have to wonder... how long has Madara been dead? Nagato could only revive the recently dead, unless that is what he meant by, "that little brat managed to grow up".

Tobi is some sort of Zetsu clone for certain.

 

That Madara shit came out of fucking nowhere.



Calling it, Tobi is totally Madara's brother doing all this shit in the name of Madara. Also, is Madara not the coolest looking motherfucker we've seen in a long, long time?

 

We saw him ages ago. It doesn't count.

 

Madara recognized the Edo Tensei, he just didn't think it had been used on him at first.

The interesting thing is, since the first thing Madara said after being brought back was "So it finally happened" it's a pretty safe bet that he was expecting to be brought back. Whoever Tobi is, he's almost certainly got some kind of connection to Madara.

Not shocked by the revelation that Tobi might not be Madara; between the fact that his face Tobi's face has always been concealed, to the point of Kisame killing himself to keep the Alliance from getting a look at it, I figured there was some big revelation coming up. Not sure if it's Tobi = Obito, a Madara-clone, Madara's brother, or what, but it's definitely something.

Leaning slightly towards the Tobi = Obito theory, since that maximum drama value where most of the other revelations would be a bit underwhelming.

 

Was fairly obvious the whole time that he wasn't actually Madara. The dude wears a mask, so obviously he has something to hide. I'd say he's Obito, except Tobi was too old for that during his fight with Minato.

I'm just hoping he's not a new, entirely original character. The mask makes me think he's someone recognisable, but who knows?

Edit: Hrm, now that the fanon Tobi = Madara opinion has been all but destroyed, I might have to change my sig. Blah.

 

Lol. This reminds me of a time when I found a slew of fics where Tobi was Minato - well, the Yondaime. I don't remember if his name had been revealed at that point, I know many of the writers either used Yondaime or Arashi. D:

I think the Obito angle wouldn't make sense because of his age in the fight with Minato, as Sechrima said, but it's almost certainly a known character - I highly doubt introducing a new character in such a prominent role would work at the series end, given the amount of build up we've had with Madara.