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Gotham - Draw (Demon Mayor Wins)

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Vesvius, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Another Empty Frame

    Another Empty Frame Fake Flamingo DLP Supporter

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    Just fucking kill KaiDash!
     
  2. Fishy Justice

    Fishy Justice Fourth Year

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    Well, that's been long enough. Krogan made an appearance but didn't say anything more.

    I'm sheeping up, sorry Kai.

    Vote player: Kaidash

    May tomorrow have less circus and more discussion.
     
  3. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    First off, sorry for not posting yesterday, but I have caught up to the... mess... that is the current situation.

    That being said, I can see how the pairs of Krogan/Lungs and KaiDASH/Irene could easily be in the same group(Gangs or GCPD/Robin->Batman), although more so the former than the latter. Even so, if nothing else, I have also like many others been reading both Krogan and KaiDASH's responses as rather weak defenses.

    As it stands, either they are Villains of different factions(I don't like "Scum," even if it is a good all-purpose word that crosses game-types.), and there are four Villain factions to consider, or they are very foolish innocents and going to likely remain as a Polarizing factor, that will result in wasted Batman/Huntress 'kills' simply because their remaining existence is suspicious. Of course, it could be a mix, but I do feel reasonably confident that at least one of them is assuredly a Villain.

    Considering we only have four and half hours left(I think?), and there is no way we are going to get a vote swap all the way onto Krogan at this point, I'm going to put my vote in for KaiDASH now. We don't have a Judge-analog for this game, after all. Twilight won't extend the day phase, and hopefully his role-reveal will give us some useful information to discuss and work with before going into Night. That said, if Krogan does last the night, as I suspect he might unless the Huntress or Batman nails him(the Villains certainly wouldn't kill one of their own, or likely kill an easy fall-guy), I guess he becomes tomorrow's go-to target.

    Vote Player: KaiDASH
     
  4. Eternity Lost

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    There are multiple people being suspicious here, and 1 of 2 is going to be lynched.

    Kai - Seems quite desperate and his accusation of Krogan was very random and desperate. He feels the most suspicious to me and if he gets away now, we will always be distracted by him.

    Krogan - Very aggresive, especially towards Kai. This could just be his style, I don't know him well enough to judge. His backtrack on defending Lungs is quite suspicious, maybe it's staged, or he could just be annoyed with his apparent ingratiousness?

    Though the most suspicious thing about him is his very quick switch about voting quickly around posts 135-142. Credit where credit's due, Irene drew me to this and I felt it was very telling. He says "We have time and should consider before voting quickly" (ish) and after a few posts he then says "I can't believe I overlooked putting my vote in". Fast Switch huh? I'm not sure whether this indicates scum or officers but as Irene says, this kind of backtrack is evidence of a shared quicktopic.

    And your logic in post 141 sucks. How the hell would Kai know Zeit would explode and leave the game, that doesn't happen often?

    There are three others I feel attention should be drawn to, not nessecarily for their scummyness, but because they are the ones who have most of the input and are mostly dictating what is happening: Irene, Lungs and Silens

    Irene - I'm not sure but it feels like her logic is... off slightly regarding her proposing we lynch Krogan instead of Kai. You say if Kai is lynched and scum then Krogan can say I WAZ RIGHT I'M INNOCENT. What's stopping the same thing happening vice-versa. If anything I think it is more likely, because Krogan didn't really have any good reasoning behind voting Kai ("he is asshole"), and Kai did for voting Krogan (his defence of Zeit - which I found suspicious as hell).

    So why are you proposing we lynch Krogan first?

    Also, I doubt Krogan's bandwagon will get enough strength by the end of the day.

    I'll deal with the others tomorrow. If I'm still alive then :(.
     
  5. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So, if I'm following the Irene paragraph correctly, you want to avoid the inevitable Kai/Krogan outburst of 'I'm innocent!' if we lynch the other. You also feel that the argument against Krogan has some validity to it, while the start of the kai bandwagon was based on personal distaste.

    And your final conclusion was lynch kai anyway? :confused:
     
  6. Lungs

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    LOL. just... LOL. (I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing because everyone seems to think it's bad logic, unless you know Kai and Zeit :p)

    That said, I think it's a bit presumptuous. Zeit left because of personal reasons boiling over. Don't let anyscum tell you otherwise.
     
  7. Kensington

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    Whelp, I'm stupidly busy today so I'm going to give into the masses and vote for KaiDash. Who's alpha male now, Kai?

    Rescind Vote

    Vote Player: KaiDASH
     
  8. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Pretty sure kens makes 16. Can't really check at work. Anyone want to confirm for me?
     
  9. Aekiel

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    Well, I'm voting for Kai. Sorry dude, I do believe your argument that Krogan is a villain, but I'm fairly sure you are too. It helps that this argument reminds me of our debates during HoT, I can see the parallels to two opposing villain factions fighting with each other.

    Vote Player: KaiDASH

    ---------- Post automerged at 10:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 PM ----------

    Ninja'd. Yeah, that votes makes it up to 16.
     
  10. Lungs

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    17 total, guys.
     
  11. Fenraellis

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    Well, Vesvius, I think Kensington did, but Aekiel definitely does, if nothing else.
     
  12. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Wow, desperate much? Anything you want to say? :facepalm
     
  13. jwlk

    jwlk Seventh Year

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    Yep its 16
     
  14. Sacrifice

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    R.I.P KaiDASH. Now, shed some light on the situation, Vesvius :)
     
  15. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I'm home, I'm home. Infodump/flavordump post coming soon.
     
  16. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    I can haz flavor?



    /that was bad and I feel bad
     
  17. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    It was a long and arduous day, watching the door to the confined wing. But my aching feet are the least of the injuries among the guards. Jefferson thought he heard something and opened fire. Turns out he did hear something, and Thompson'll be in the infirmary with a leg that looks like swiss cheese.

    But after all of our problems, there was a loud knock on the other side of the door. I peeked through and saw that someone (or someones) bound and gagged prisoner KaiDASH for us. Though wary of a trap, we managed to get him into the controlled area of the asylum and to the doctors. After some talking, the doctors managed to determine who was actually in prisoner KaiDASH's body...

    Not that it was much of a challenge. They merely stared at him for an hour until he burst out into a flurry of nervous "kwack, kwack, kwack"! The way he was eyeing Kennedy's umbrella didn't help any either.

    Prisoner KaiDASH was The Penguin!


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    Final Vote Tally

    KaiDASH: 17
    Jon, Krogan, Silens Cursor, Necrule Paen, Ashaya, Eternity Lost, Palindrome, Riley Poole, Scrib, Sacrifice, Lungs (Zeitgeist), Vira, Commander Bond (Ollie K), Sneaktheif (mishie), Fenraellis, Kensington, Aekiel

    Krogan: 5
    KaiDASH, Nae'blis, Kalas, Irene, Republic21

    Abstained: 8
    1and1is3, Dead, guljons, Jwlk, Kang, klackerz, Sesc, Yeagen

    *****

    It is now Twilight. In Twilight, discussion may still occur but there may be no more voting. Twilight lasts until the end of the scheduled day.

    Twilight ends at 10:00 EST tonight.
     
  18. Fishy Justice

    Fishy Justice Fourth Year

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    Well, I knew Kaidash liked playing dangerously, but I'm still surprised.
     
  19. Sacrifice

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    I knew he was scum. See, no mislynch there :)
     
  20. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Color me surprised. If KaiDASH was the Penguin, why the hell would he purposefully stand out so much? I thought that he'd know better, having played lots of mafia games, so I assumed stupidity instead of guilt.

    In any case, this is a major victory for town, though I am still suspicious of Kai's accusers. They were stabbing in the dark. The fact that they hit a major scum role doesn't change the fact that they (read; Krogan) are majorly suspicious.

    All in all, a great first Day. Now, let's see what Night has in store for us. I'm going to sleep, myself.
     
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