Hmmm... a refined and cultured man is fine too.

 

K, day again.

Hgf has died in the night.

 

Don't worry, losing because Lungs is retarded was fun for everyone else.

 

Grievances.

*sigh*

 

Hey Lungs,

Want me to list the number of ways you screwed up?

I mean, I am thankful that you did this because I do love the concept but damn did it end up failing.

Maybe, but between the learning the rules as it comes, Lungs activing our NPs when we said not too, RNG screwing us over, Retribution on Jeram randomly being a counterable effect, and only three of the masters being worth a damn, it kinda sucked.

 

I'm not sure how to break this to you Smile, but we've all had to do with that kind of stuff as well.

 

But you had Gilgamesh, and if he isn't the most broken thing in this game I will be amazed.

 

I feel so appreciated. (;_

 

All right. I don't think this is worth it. Really. It's a game.

Gilga is arguably OP, but at this point it doesn't matter. Unless this is after game and you want to discuss balancing.*

Objectively, Jon is where he is now partially because of the uncertainty about the rules in the beginning. If that makes you feel better sotk, then yes. That much is true. And that is only because of the way the servant works.

*And no, this wouldn't be about the game, but about the servants on paper. And yes, I mean discuss.

So uh..we going to bother doing this final clash of titans or we done? D:

 

I'd agree to skip day and night together, and instead just submit all actions as they come.

Which I'm assuming is you using Ea, them using defense-ee NP, and then you'd probably wait another three days and use it again and again.

Really, there's no point in deadlocking to death. Going through the motions is never fun either.

 

1) Lynching is stupid in this game no matter what. It shouldn't of been in here and I said so.

2) But we did. We also went to attacking other people because Jeram was Divine and you screw Divine. Figured we would kill some others then we could deal with you since it would take all the command seals of Sneak and Myself to win a fight. Of course, RNG and the fact that you could counter Retribution for some god damn reason meant Jeram got super raped and we lost the game.

3) I was assuming that you wouldn't be horribly broken. Just because a character is broken in a story to make a good story does not mean a bloody overpowered character in a game would make a good game.

Also, what bloody advantage? Endiku destroied Jeram that one night and because we didn't know that we had one of every single spell and thought we could only use one of those spells once, we didn't know we could use Mystic Eyes to notice that we would win a fight.

 

1. No. Not true. :\ I endorse lynching wholeheartedly because it places another element to check back OPness and encourages the alliance system.

I think... no one sees a clear picture of what could or could not have happened this game, since no one played (plays?) optimally, no did any single team do much info-gathering at all, thus running blind calcs of assumptions and shit that I can't debunk, and leading to complaint after complaint.

I'll have a nice long tl;dr detailing every scenario in which x team could have won after this is over.

 

I'm only going to reply to this to the extent you understand the sentence that was posted.

I only said uncertainty about the rules contributed to your victory via building Noble Phantasms with gate of babylon, and the lack of knowing more than one spell could be used. Make sense? Note the contributed part, and the 'partially' part from the first sentence. Never said it's only reason, silly goose.

Also note, that isn't blaming anyone. So please relax.

 

You mean the info gathering that means if you get attacked you HAVE to use a Command Seal? No one is going to research with that constraint. If you wanted research to be fair, make a -2 to defensive or whatnot. It still sucks but then you are not instantly screwed.

On lynching though, the fact that it can be 2v1 is good enough for the alliance system. You don't need some extra carryover like Lynching in place. Really, besides being unnecessary for teamwork, it is bad game design. You basically make a situation for the counter to a hero be, have a team use five-six command seals to kill one person, or have everyone else figure they suck too much and have some random god kill the OPness. Considering half the players here were retarded, Jon got an alliance and it was impossible to lynch and now we lost.

What would be good in the future because damn this game could go places is something like this. Fun events,

Caster - Event - Every night Caster can steal souls from the town. -1 Priority for everything that night. Gains 1 priority for five turns and it stacks. 25% chance for Moderator of the Holy Grail war to notice and declare whoever kills Caster to gain two Command Seals.

Why did I switch from hate to suggesting ideas for this game? Lungs, I really do like this game. It had some stupid problems with the rules and a bad player base, but this is quite amazingly fun.