This doesn't make sense unless that power isn't an every-night one, does it? But the rules say so! Let's put that I auctioned off Franki last night, it could be seen in two ways:

1. The auction was valid for last night and today's lynch. Night comes, I use it again.
2. The auction is valid for today's lynch and tonight. If it's an every-night power like the rules say, does it mean I can use it again that same night?

 

Duchess can only silence at night, and can silence every night. Therefore, that person can keep the same person on hold indefinitely if desired. If you lynch someone, they're lynched unless otherwise stated. I.e. Dracula's revival.

 

....your joking right? We never once said don't lynch, we both said go for deadline so we could guarantee a lynch and leave time open for discussion in case new information presented itself. You seem to be either very confused or flat don't know what your talking about. We both said point blank that we should all vote as a Deadline vote so we can have a target guaranteed and have time to talk. Seriously I'd like to see where you seem to think that I tried to stall anything.

Long story short, if you'd take five minutes to actually read any of these posts you'd see more or less that nothing you are claiming we said is true.

 

I find Zennith's jumping on the "bandwagon" really odd. There's only one other person voting for Stoji and he claims to jump on the bandwagon. Besides that and Smile's reasoning not really clicking, I really think Stoji was just a convenient lynch for day 1 and mishie being killed somewhat clears him.

As far as scum/town nk's are concerned, I don't think either side had enough info and I agree with whoever said that the town nk was on the lurker and scum on mishie was random-ish but possibly to try and get a lynch on Stoji going again. This is just from reading the new replies though. I need to go back and read day 1's posts again keeping in mind who was nk'ed.

 

What I meant by Lynch shenanigans was that the Duchess can't auction of one of us mid Day, ie preventing a bandwagon. The only real way she could throw a wrench in the works is if we were going into a Day with a 100% guaranteed lynch target.

Additionnaly why would the Duchess perma lock-down someone at this stage of the game? Not only is she removing herself from a power position, in every situation I can imagine she's helping us more then herself. We'd have her locked down on one target, if its a useless power role, like Stallings, if its a NK role we'd know from the flavor text and if she somehow put a name to a different role through posts chances are someone else could put it together as well.

There is no downside for us if she decides to permalock someone.

 

You're right... since I doubt he/she can permalock himself/herself, the usefulness of the power will be more dangerous later on. Even if that first thing was possible, Marcone would pierce that protection, possibly.

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He/she could bluff, theoretically. Permalocking someone to make us think it's him/her, make us waste Marcone's kill and getting rid of two non-Reds. But, like I said, I doubt permalocking himself/herself would be allowed.

 

Even if she could target herself, it takes affect for Day and Night actions. A Permalock would be impossible.

I did think of one, possible, use though: by locking down a protection character she would make one person basically immortal. Luckily, and most definitely intentionally, Red Court has no protection roles so doing so would be playing a very dangerous game with another faction.

 

This would work only in "case 1" (1. The auction was valid for last night and today's lynch. Night comes, I use it again.), though.

Anyway, pointless speculation is pointless.

I'm out. Don't lynch me while I'm away, please. Pretty please.

 

Hey guys! Sorry for not posting at all yesterday, my family went on an unexpected vacation :l

But i'm back now, expect some participation from me in the coming hours.

 

Don't really understand why the Red Court would send franki to the auction. He basically said nothing in his posts and just posted a couple voting recaps, seems weird :/

I am also wondering how viable it is for some town to roleclaim early in the game, I can think of atleast one role that claiming for it will have what I feel is very pro town reprecussions. Thoughts?

 

So I am reading through the thread and I pretty much agree with that Jeram was killed by Blackstaff, because of the no post thing.

But then I read this.

So who are these "we"? Is it only me who takes this as him and his scum buddies?

Of course the obvious defense is that he meant town members, but to me it doesn't work. He says they are handicapped in communicating. Well town is not any more handicapped in this game than any other game. Only ones who are handicapped are the scum.

So I will go with this
Deadline Lynch:EvanTide

 

I just got back home and it was a 6 hour journey so my head bursts like hell. There is a possibility that I might go to sleep and not get back in time for day end so I thought I would share my thoughts.

...

Now that that is out of the way I would say that the roles are way too complex and I need to sit down and go through them again. Just reading the posts makes my head hurt so sorry but I had rather not say anything right now.

 

Yep, the roles are complex are all right and the Duchess role sucks.

Many people are giving scum vibes to me now.Voting for lurkers it is.

Deadline Vote:OllieK/Gambit

 

Given that I'm not likely to be back on for the rest of the day in time to read what happens next, I'm going to back guljons here. That kind of a slip up could just be an honest mistake, or it could have been a real error of actual value.

If I get a chance to check up on things before the clock runs out I might rescind, but for now at least,

Deadline Lynch:EvanTide

 

Okay so it looks like I am always going to be posting late in the day, as it starts when I am sleeping and then I go straight to work. I'm home now and have quickly read through the new posts. Man, do I need a refresher on these roles.

One thing I want to point out: We are focusing a lot on Uncle Stojil. I mean of course we are because he was the main person talked about the first day, and now Mishie has died after defending him. I am just thinking that if he isn't scum, the scum will probably want to keep him around through the game and not NK him because he's really keeping everyone's attention on him and a lot of people can probably slip through the cracks. I didn't vote for him last time because I wasn't getting these terrible scum vibes that everyone else was, and I felt there were better options.

Right now, I haven't got a clue who killed Jeram. Someone definitely playing it safe, going for a lurker who no one was supporting or accusing. It could have been absolutely anyone, and so far they are doing a good job picking a player to kill who won't give us clues to who they are. With the Mishie thing, I also don't know, but I did notice how it once again brought it all back to Uncle Stojil. It could be to clear him as they hope our thinking will be, 'Oh well he defended Stojil and he died to Stojil must be innocent' but with so many scum factions we can't afford to think like that whatsoever. It could be to bring more focus onto him as it has, distract from the scum out there and make him look suspicious.


But in my mind, we aren't going to move on to finding other scum if we are all zoned in on Uncle Stojil.

So,

Deadline Vote: Uncle Stojil

I am willing to change this vote if something better pops up, but the whole thing with EvanTide and finding it suspicious that he thinks the town has a handicap even if they always do, isn't good enough for me at the moment. He wrote 'we' and everyone is suspicious of that, but if he wrote 'like the town has' then everyone would jump on him for writing town and not we.

 

I see no substance in the accusation of Evan Tide.

To be honest I agree with Loch Ness. We'll be fixated on Uncle Stojil for ages if he survives and I feel he's scum. With the way mishie defended him I'm leaning towards Denarians. Maybe he's Nicodemus or Tessariel with Mishie being Thorned Namshiel.

So

Deadline: Uncle Stojil

 

Honestly, I don't think there's sufficient evidence pointing to either Uncle Stojil or Evan Tide. Both seem fairly innocent to me. In fact, I think the majority of other posters act scummier than they do. We'll just have to see....

Also, the Denarians are not the only ones who know each other.
-Morgan knows Dresden
-McCoy communicates with one person of his or her choice
-Roles like Dresden and Ivy can deduce whether a person might be guilty or not
-2 members of Saint Giles can communicate
-(and finally Kincaid will eventually learn Ivy's identity, but that's not important yet)

So there's a higher chance that if a person defends another person, he/she is a pro-town role or simply someone who doesn't agree with why a poster is getting accused. (especially early on, since in Day One the Denarians didn't get to communicate)

We have plenty of time for discussion (at least eight hours I think?) so we shouldn't just start voting to lynch people for insignificant details....

 

Where's this plenty of time? By my count we have about 10 hours until the end of day

 

Snowflake, I think it's important that people start making votes as not everyone will be around at the end of the game (for example it will be three am here so I will be sleeping), but if you noticed, people are doing deadline votes so that they at least get a vote in, but don't shorten the discussion time at all.

 

...Isn't that plenty of time? I might be mistaken, it might not be that much time in a Mafia game, but I thought ten hours would be plenty to discuss and lynch someone?

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Oh, I see. The time difference. Got it