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Investigations into Chicago (Dresden Mafia) Day 1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I can't believe this post has gone unnoticed.

    So Aekiel has revealed the blackstaff to you, and now you also want the merlin to reveal? Holy shit scumdar going crazy here. I dont think I need to elaborate why this is a gigantic scumtell and ridiculos. In fact this makes me suspect you as the Red Duchess, because Merlin reveal let's you infinitely eBay him and take him out of the game. Also Merlin reveal was my role claim idea but Red Duchess was its glaring weakness and in light of recent events it would be really stupid. So lynch Zennith today, and watch Kalas very carefully.

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    Deadline Lynch Vote: Zennith
     
  2. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Quick question. If the Merlin uses his power to swap Stojil and himself, and then Stojil gets role blocked, what happens? Because in that case the role block would be transferred to the Merlin, meaning his ability doesn't work, but if it doesn't work then the role block would affect Stojil, meaning the swap ability still works. Paradox.
     
  3. Riley

    Riley Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    Depends on Night Action priority Aekiel.

    I can't believe I woke up and checked this.

    /me goes back to sleep
     
  4. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Why is Night Action priority hidden from us?
     
  5. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Okay, wow, go to sleep and wake up to ten+ pages. Just finished reading through, and some points I've considered along the way.

    Aekial says he was seduced by Lara Raith circa page 17/18, and Smile claimed the same on the 31st. If true than we can eliminate them as Red/Black Court, and we know that Knights, Denarian, and Erlking are immune.

    That unfortunately would indicate they are definitely town. I say unfortunately because we only have a limited number of town roles that are immune to NK's, but at least we'd know not to lynch them.

    For that reason, I'd advocate for Father Forthill to keep Aekial safe tonight.

    Now, on the other hand:

    Lets say that they lied about being seduced.

    If Aekial is scum and the Blackstaff's voice, what if Aekial is the Red Duchess and for that reason chose to eBay him? Not only to roleblock, but maybe keep him around to nuke some of the Black/White court opposition down the road, since the only way to win for a court is to eliminate the town and the other courts?

    All this talk about waiting for Stojil to return is a load of crap considering that he could just get eBay'd again, rendering it futile and preventing the Blackstaff's NK from occurring.

    There's also the possibility that Aekial is the Red Baron(-Can choose once every two nights to search for a White Council member. If a wizard is found, the Baron cannot use this power for two days.).

    Consider that he may have gotten lucky and found out McCoy straight away, and everything he's said so far could be made up with no way to deny it, especially if McCoy chose a scum to be his voice.

    Personally I think it more likely Aekial is town at this point, but I'm giving both sides of the argument just incase, since slipping up on the Blackstaff role is a pretty bad kick in the ribs right now.
     
  6. Aekiel

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    I said a long while back that I'd misunderstood what the flavour text was telling me. I wasn't seduced by Lara Raith, I was role blocked by Justine. The description was along the lines of 'she was beautiful and pale, but you could tell she was human.'
     
  7. H_A_Greene

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    Okay, good to have clarification. Ten pages is a lot of info to wade through. Either way, though, that just leaves your potential role open to investigation further ahead, and you could still be a heavy-hitting scum trying to lure off suspicions.

    That said, I'm afraid I'm joining the bandwagon given that the tide is overwhelmingly against you, Zennith. We must have a lynch, and since no one else's head is so well set against the chopping block...

    Deadline lynch: Zennith.
     
  8. Jibril

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    If Aekiel is lying the true Blackstaff will try to kill him tonight, but if his is not than some scum may try their luck. So I propose that Father Forthill protect Aekiel tonight. If he is lying than we get a flavour text of unsuccessful nk by Blackstaff. If he is telling the truth Stojil will confirm it the next day. And if it is the former than we can lynch Aekiel next day.

    Deadline lynch: Zennith.

    I think you're mistaken. Stojil will return the next day, not this night.

    And Kalas previous post is something that a two-bit villain would said.
    Yes, I know it's flimsy.
     
  9. LochNess

    LochNess Third Year DLP Supporter

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    Hi guys, really sorry I haven't been on. Got in really late on New Years and then when I woke up had to go see Peter Pan with my boss. When I got back, the internet wasn't working and I just got it fixed now. GOing to read all the pages, just wanted to let you know I am here

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    Sorry have to go back to work for a bit unexpectedly, so I won't be able to post for a couple hours
     
  10. Eternity Lost

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    I wake up and get back to THIS!

    First, vote:

    Deadline: Zennith

    Not much time now but will be back later.
     
  11. Koalas

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    I admit that was very poorly thought out. I suggested that at a time when we were discussing whether or not Aekiel should be protected tonight. I hadn't considered the Duchess would be doing anything other then locking down the Blackstaff tonight but you seem to think she'll try something clever.

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    I believe it'd either block Stojil's already used NK or block the Merlin post switch when it wouldn't matter. Again though I was talking Aekiel and Merlin switching due to the nk immunity. Not Stojil as that would reveal him when Duchess did her thing.
     
  12. Moridin

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    Not sure I understand. Why would a Merlin reveal be necessary? Simply ask the Merlin to anonymously swap himself with Stojil, and then Stojil doesn't die, and the Merlin is protected by his immunity to NKs. The Merlin revealing would actually be detrimental, since then the scum could simply target him and get Stojil that way.
     
  13. Azira

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    Because Merlin switching himself with stojl is revealing himself if the red duchess targets Stojl again, he'll be the one auctioned off tomorrow night. The logical cilourse of action is for Merlin to switch between stojl and one of his suspected scum so that anythig that wouldve hit stojl hits other scum.
     
  14. LochNess

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    Okay guys, sorry I really doubt that Iwill be around much today. I will be back to posting normlly tomorrow. So with all of this evidence pointing towards Zennith, I am going to vote for him. Aekiel is still up on my suspicions with him saying Stojil's role like that.

    If I get a chance I will join in more on the discussion, bu for now:

    Deadline Vote: Zennith
     
  15. guljons

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    My God, this is much.

    I am inclined to believe Aekiel at this point. He has given some evidence and Stojil will confirm everything tomorrow, including that he doesn't know for sure that Aek is not scum. But this really is not todays problem, because nothing can be changed now anyway. I could probably not even vote.

    Agree completely with Azira. Merlin does not switch himself with Stojil, he switches Stojil with who he thinks has a scum role with action in night. Atleast in this case if he is tried to be sold again there is chance to some damage.

    Now I might as well
    Deadline Vote: Zennith
     
  16. Moridin

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    You're right, I didn't think of that.
     
  17. Eternity Lost

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    The one thing that makes me believe Aekiel is the fact that he volunteered information rather than just responding.

    His Stojil slip is very suspect though.
     
  18. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I feel Aekiels "slip" was calculated, like Castiels slip in WH Evolution and we should be pretty wary of it.
     
  19. Vesvius

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    After all this, I'm almost sure Aekiel's town. I don't think he would reveal the blackstaff's identity accidently unless he was. A scum would hold onto that for as long as he could, and then try to frame the blackstaff for a scumrole.

    Evan Tide's lynchwagon seems to have lost steam. So none for him.

    So for right now:

    Vote Lynch: Zennith

    Tommorrow, though? We really should focus on Kalas. He just gave off one of the biggest scumtells I've seen, and because we're all focusing on the Zennith/Aekiel thing, very few people noticed it.
     
  20. Eternity Lost

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    That's the problem with accidents.


    I'm reserving judgement on Kalas. It could have just been a mistake.

    I think Franki's plan is good. If Aekiel is scum, (which I feel he's not) then he'll be killed.

    If he's not, he'll be protected.

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    Also, where's jwlk?

    He's only posted once so far.
     
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