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Investigations into Chicago (Dresden Mafia) Day 1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. guljons

    guljons Squib

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    Okay, one thing I didn't see mentioned is that Susan didn't do her thing tonight.
    So if she is dead she can be: Krogan or Zennith.

    There is the possibility that she did this for purpose, but it just makes more confusion about Zennith and I don't think she would do this.

    That makes me think she is dead. So yeah.

    Or of course, I just remembered that she could have been roleblocked and that gives us possibilities who she can be with all the night-action claims that are going around.
     
  2. Uncle Stojil

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    Unfortunately, I didn't want to post it for contingent reasons, but Aziraphale is mostly right about Zennith. So, depending on night priority, this is what could have happened:

    1) Zennith was first cleansed, then swapped with another player. My night kill targeted this other player. The Merlin knows one almost certain scum. The almost certain scum knows the Merlin knows he/she's scum.
    2) Zennith was swapped with another player first. The cleansing and my night kill targeted this other player. The Merlin knows one almost certain scum. Two Knights suspect this player is scum. This player knows the Merlin knows he/she's scum and suspects two Knights suspect he/she's scum.
    3) Zennith was swapped the first night and used the flavour as an excuse to defend himself when accused. In reality, he survived my night kill in the second night because he was night-protected scum. The Merlin suspects he was scum.

    Odds are it was either 1 or 2. I still believe he was scum, but that large chunk of evidence has mostly disappeared.
     
  3. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I think it's safe to discard 2 as an option, I believe that the way Riley posts in our QTs indicates night action priority which is also why he is declining to lay it out for us fully, he is letting us figure it out from people posting QTs. So I don't think Zennith doctored his QT hours to make one seem before the other, even though they were simultaneous.
    3 is also a possibility but is very unlikely, the first scenario is most likely the correct one.
     
  4. draconian139

    draconian139 DA Member

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    There was a kill and a survival of a kill. Since neither was Lara or blackstaff red king is obviously alive.

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 AM ----------

    Susan isn't dead, why would Riley complain in thread about her not getting in her action if she was dead?

    ---------- Post automerged at 10:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:56 AM ----------

    I just thought of something. Wasn't the plan for merlin to switch stojil with someone who he thought was scum? Since we've concluded that that's why Ashaya blacked out maybe we should take that as a hint.

    Vote Deadline: Ashaya
     
  5. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I think that's valid draconian, but we can lynch Kalas and Stojl Night Kills Ashaya.
     
  6. draconian139

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    The problem with that is that I'm not convinced that Kalas is scum.
     
  7. Klackerz

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    Ashaya accused draconian and draconian voted for Ashaya.

    Ashaya does seem a little bit scummy and she has not posted as much as she usually does when shes town.

    Also after reading draconian139 posts, I am finding him a little bit suspicious.
     
  8. draconian139

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    Some scenarios for Mavra role block:
    a)She was zennith and is now dead
    b)was role blocked by Justine and is a lower priority one
    c)used it on red duchess hence no ebay
    d)used it on klackerz and that was his black court visit
    e)used it on someone else that isn't coming forward
    f)is faking death

    Krogan could have been her but this wouldn't influence last night's block as there's no way a kill is higher priority than a block. I think b is wrong since I believe aekiel is town. I don't really see a reason for someone to keep it secret if they were blocked unless they were the duchess so I don't think its e. Despite it being possible for c and d to be true simultaneously I don't think they are since I doubt the duchess would admit it if they were blocked last night. Clarification on Evan's question would help matters.
     
  9. Snowflake

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    I have to leave soon, so I'm going to go ahead and put my vote in.

    Deadline Vote: Kalas.

    He does seem a little scummy and he has the most votes so far.
     
  10. LochNess

    LochNess Third Year DLP Supporter

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    Merlin wouldn't know better than us who is scum and who is not right? So I am a bit suspicious of Draconian for trying to get a lynch started on someone because of one person's possible suspicions. It doesn't make sense to me/ Also with Aziraphale agreeing that Stojil should night kill her because of that... It could be a way to try and keep the night kills towards people they would have to pick off anyways and away from their scum faction.
     
  11. draconian139

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    Actually loch, as earlier discussed merlin already knows one likely scum, so yes they do know better than the rest of us.
     
  12. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    I don't really have much of a feel for anyone else at the moment, and I don't know how late tonight I'll be able to stay on, so I'm going to go ahead and throw it out now.

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Kalas
     
  13. LochNess

    LochNess Third Year DLP Supporter

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    Oh okay sorry, I had been busy and ust quickly skimmed through. I missed that, so I take it back Draconian.
     
  14. Castiel

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    Is it just me or draconion-Lochness fight here was too forced?
     
  15. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    The following players have five or less posts:

    guljons
    Lungs
    Kensington
    Custer (A bit understandable, but I still want you talking.)

    Whats up guys? Hows the lurking? (Cue much excuses about why they haven't been able to post.)
     
  16. H_A_Greene

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    ^ Lungs isn't an official participant. I think he's Riley's back up or something.
     
  17. LochNess

    LochNess Third Year DLP Supporter

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    Castiel, it definitely wasn"t forced, apparently I just need to read more thoroughly before posting/ I was thinking Merlin knew as much as the rest of us did from his character explanation in the page and that if people were saying to kill off otheres based on one person's suspicions it seemed pretty scummy. Now that I know it's been discussed that Merlin most likely knows a scum, I wanted to take back my accusation and admit I was in the wrong.
     
  18. Snowflake

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    I was back for a short while, so I was looking through the voting patterns.... Aekiel: If you knew Stojil was blackstaff from Day 1, why did you vote to lynch him on Day 1 and Day 2?
     
  19. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I'm pretty sure I know the answer but I want to hear it from Aekiel/Stojils mouth, so lets wait for that.
     
  20. guljons

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    Stojil has not actually said if he was switched tonight. Or does only one of the people switched get a QT message?

    So Ashaya could just as well been one of the Merlins switch targets and the other one was the one he used with Zennith. Or he might have done something else entirely.

    So draconian139 suspicion does not really work unless Stojil knows and says that he was switched.
     
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