Went back and looked, and

From the vote for Zennith. Yet he didn't put in anything similar for Krogan.

Also, in both previous cases where an auction took place, it was clearly stated it was an auction. Franki was found on Ebay, and in the post where Stojil is said to be auctioned, Riley says

which, counting for Duke, mishie and Jeram, means that Stojil is alive. No such statement was made for Krogan, who was explicitly stated to have claimed the ebay stuff.

Also, forgot to do this.

Rescind Vote

Deadline Vote Lynch: Krogan

 

These are the potential combinations.

1. If Mishie, Zennith and (Duke OR Jeram) were all scum:

Gambit, Klackerz and Custer = Town

3/4 of Krogan, Vesvius, Dhulli and Kalas = Scum


2. Mishie and Zennith = Scum (Duke and Jeram not)

a) If (Gambit OR Klack) is scum.

3/4 of Kalas, Vesvius, Dhulli and Krogan are scum.

b) If Custer's scum

All of Kalas, Vesvius, Dhulli and Krogan are scum

3. Just (Zennith OR Mishie) is dead scum

a) (Klack OR Ollie) is scum

All of Kalas, Vesvius, Dhulli and Krogan are scum

b) Custer is scum - DOESN'T WORK

4. (Zennith OR Mishie) and (Duke OR Jeram)

All of Kalas, Vesvius, Dhulli and Krogan are scum

5. (Duke OR Jeram) - DOESN'T WORK

Don't vote Krogan. If you're right (I think you are) and he's Dracula, he'll just be ressurrected by Mavra. What we need to do is find Mavra.

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Rescind Vote

I think he's Dracula so we shouldn't lynch him. Let's find Mavra instead.

 

Damn, you're right. I misread the roles, and thought that could only happen once. Huh.

Well, then, back to my previous post:

(Gambit OR Duke OR Jeram OR Klackerz), Kalas, Vesvius, Krogan, mishie, Zennith, dhulli.

6 of those 7 are scum. I believe Krogan is Dracula, and Vesvius has outed himself as the Erlking. That leaves the others, assuming my numbers are correct.

 

I'm not sure if Vesvius is the Erlking.

He may be Lara Raith or the Red King. FF protects him. He says he's been changed into a human. We don't lynch or NK him. He survives to end and wins. I'm thinking Red King as that means he can kill aswell.

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Custer can be scum too.

Look at option 2 b)

 

You make some good points regarding Vesvius, but there is no good town reason for him to claim Erlking, so either way he's scum, and the rest are as they are.

 

Vesuvius should give us Nicodemus today so the knights can purify him tonight. Custer, who I bielieve, can then verify that he was actually a denarian. Between this and info from Nicodemus we would have it confirmed that Vesuvius was telling the truth about being the erlking and grow by 2 in numbers.

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We would also have confirmation of Custer telling the truth or fakeclaiming from the person who's targeted for purifying.

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When Nicodemus survived there was an indication in the flavor, same with there being an indication of survival in the flavor of night 2. I don't see anything indicating that there were 2 who survived a nk attempt night 3 so the red king didn't visit you.

If Moridin is right about Krogan then what I said about the red king being zennith or klackerz no longer makes sense.

 

This is a good plan, imo. Gives us two townies, and Nicodemus is bound to have good information. It also means we have one less tainted player tonight.

I honestly believe I am, from the evidence I cited. All the same, I'd appreciate if people went over it more thoroughly to verify that I'm not just seeing things.

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By good information, I mean that he'll probably know both Tessa and Namshiel (unless Namshiel was smart enough to keep the information of who was who from them in case one was purified).

 

The only issue with what you said is that if Krogan was ebayed with the ebay flavor being changed to look like a kill I doubt that Riley would reflect the ebay status in the votes. It all depends on what flavor Riley actually changed.

 

Rescind Vote
Deadline Lynch Vote: Krogan

 

I don't see much benefit in voting for Krogan. If Moridin is right then he comes back tomorrow and we should attempt to find Mavra. If Moridin is wrong then we should lynch Klackerz and guarantee that the red king is dead.

 

I see alot of benefit in lynching Krogan. If he comes back tomorrow, we confirm him as Dracula and can search for Mavra based on his posts. And we get less taints, he can't use his powers, etc.

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Also, Mavra could be dead. Could have been Kalas/EvenTide (Which were both near 100% scum.)

 

I find it hilariously suspicious that as soon as it looks like klackerz is going down Azriphale pops out of nowhere to lead a huge campaign against me. Look at his posting history folks, he makes a few heavy handed posts here and there but as soon as klackerz is going down his post count doubles and its all about taking the heat off of him. I think me getting lynched is inevitable so I won't waste my breath but follow the connection there folks. After Im dead at least do me a favor and kill him off.

 

Wow. Load of info overnight.

Rescind Vote
Deadline lynch: Krogan

 

Classic scum sending off post. "I'm dead, as my last wish kill that guy!"

If you had actually read the thread, you would see there is ZERO chance of you not being scum. So your words don't really hold merit.

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Also, I wasn't the one that "lead" a campaign. I woke up after all the role revealing shit went down, and inferred (mind you, I was thinking Klackerz was scum at first but it fast became clear he isn't) pretty easily that you are scum.

If you aren't, how about you role claim?

 

Rofl blah blah blah and I could say that this reads like the classic scum trying way too hard to bury someone and getting twitchy when the finger gets pointed at them. Your words dont hold much merit either Azira, if I was really scum you could have just let my post go as the last words of a dead man and moved on, the fact that you jumped all over it and are going "SCUM HES SCUM IGNORE EVERYTHING HE SAYS" speaks to me of being nervous someone might take me seriously.

 

I also want to go over our night actions...

Merlin keeps protecting Stojil by switching him with likely scum.
Forthill cleanses Vesvius, we gain another townie.
And if Vesvius gives us Nicodemus tonight, Knights purify him and we gain another townie + possibly all the Denarians names.
Stojil kills someone (NOTE: STOJIL PLEASE FUCKING POST IT THIS TIME BEFORE DAYS END, SO MERLIN DOESN'T FUCK UP.)

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@Krogan Actually I responded because I think my contribution and actions have spoken much louder than words for the town in this game. I am not afraid to make any slips in my posts because I don't have to be afraid. I'm 100% town

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And try sowing doubt harder.

 

If I was trying to sow doubt I'd be tossing dirt at everyone Azira and not just pointing out the holes in your "logic". Your the only one left who reads as obscenely suspicious to me. Also what contributions and actions? You haven't made any. You voted a scant handful of times and are only now going full blast when it looks like klackerz was going to die.

 

So why do people think Krogan is Dracula anyways?

 

Wow, back from work and so many new pages. I'll go back and reread them soon, but in the meantime, since it appears some things have gone unnoticed and/or forgotten:



First, Riley got me when he anticipated the end of day by 10 minutes. I was literally watching time go by when it happened.

Second, I'm confused by Sneakthief's post and I believe that, even if sincere, many scum players are jumping on it because of how it made them look... or how it made some other players look.

Honestly, at the moment I'm considering more those who have roleclaimed than Sneakthief's results.

Ashaya: she roleclaimed Marcone so stupidly that I can't help but consider her scum. It made no sense whatsoever, and for more than one reason. Also, she was the first to pounce on Sneakthief's results , possibly because they didn't implicate her. I think that the risk of letting her live is too high. Also, if she's indeed Marcone (which I doubt) she can target whoever she wants and kill a possible scum, hence not a total waste. I'm leaning on her as far as my night kill goes.

SmileOfTheKill: his Susan roleclaim was bad as well. I don’t think it was fake, but it's conveniently difficult for him to prove he's still human and town, instead of being turned into vampire by the Red King. The first spot of battle of night 3 with "large splashes of dried blood, as if several arteries had been opened and sprayed around" seems to me like the spot where the Red King (which we presume used his kill night 1 and 3) has targeted and turned Susan. This should also be confirmed by Krogan's return, although I'm not sure what happened to him yet.

Riley

Riley, if "spinning tales of auction and escape" is not true, then it's something that should have been Krogan's job to say. If it's true, then it's NECESSARILY confirmation that he was auctioned off.

YOU CAN'T NOT CLEAR THIS UP.

In my opinion, at least. (I would also like to point you to my QT for some questions there. Please, tell me if you’re ignoring them because you can’t answer.)

If he WAS auctioned off, then it means that the Red King that night targeted another person. From the flavour, I'm 99% sure it is Susan. If that’s the case, then Smile now is either vampire Susan or fakeclaiming scum.

If Krogan was killed and revived for being Dracula, instead, then he was probably targeted by the Red King, although Lara Raith could be a possibility... can someone remind me who claimed to be seduced by her on night 3? If it's the former (King's kill), then Smile is probably innocent (and the spot with all that blood has to be where Krogan was brought back to life), while if it's the latter (Lara's seduction), then Smile is most certainly vampire Susan, now.

I would like a clarification on that flavour. I strongly believe he WAS auctioned off, though, because I can’t believe Riley would have taken such an implicating and pro-scum liberty in the fluff.

Custer: a so idiotic roleclaim, if true, that I'm tempted to lynch/kill him because of it. There's the softclaim on the female role to consider, and it doesn’t fit with the Knight one. Honestly, I can't make up my mind on him. I would not be against targeting him, though, if the possibility came up.

 

Just want to pop in and say, Stojil, tell us who you are going to kill before the day ends.

I am off to sleep. See you in about 8 hours.