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Investigations into Chicago (Dresden Mafia) Day 1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Eternity Lost

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    So Red King or Lara killed Dracula N3. Draconian claimed Lara so probably RK.

    Klackerz explain yourself.

    Lynch Lindsey? I'm not too sure about Vesvius. If he was the Erlking, what was the point of him roleclaiming? No benefit at all.

    I don't think he's telling the truth. I say other scum. He knows the Erlking can't counter roleclaim.
     
  2. draconian139

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    Klackerz claimed he was Stallings, so I guess he thinks that the scent of death was an attempted kill, I'll let someone that knows better judge if that's possible or not.

    We can rule out Kalas being Mavra if Krogan is Dracula because he wouldn't have resurrected since resurrecting him is listed as Mavra's power, not Dracula's. Depending on priority we may also be able to rule out Evan.
     
  3. Azira

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    Stojil: I don't understand WHY this would be ambivalent. If he dies, we need to KNOW he dies. Not random "is he dead, is he not, is this, is he that" bullshit. More of a gripe with Riley, not with anyone.

    Also, if Ves is indeed telling the truth (Which, I am not really surprised with Lindsey being scum) then we cleanse her tonight, get another townie and get potentially two verified scum names. It would be nice if the flavor text wouldn't be so AMBIGUOUS. (I understand it's mafia and some shit we aren't supposed to know, but that is just ridiculous levels of ambiguity.)
     
  4. Krogan

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    How was I classified as dead? This is getting into the nonsensical. Riley decided to change the flavor text, you've seen he does this randomly or doesn't use it at all. He's also flat admitted more than once to making number mistakes. Your using the most absurdly roundabout logic to try and hang me. Azira has no real argument and he realizes that it shoots a big damn hole in his excuses if I was auctioned and not killed so he's attacking Riley.
     
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  5. draconian139

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    Lynching Lindsey doesn't make much sense, Custer can testify whether or not she really was a denarian. This also will confirm whether or not Vesvius was telling the truth about being erlking unless he's just really lucky and guessed Nicodemus's role by chance.
     
  6. Eternity Lost

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    He says at the end of the night when you die. 24 remain.

    Only 4 had died before: Zennith, Mishie, Jeram and Duke.

    Therefore, you were dead.
     
  7. Krogan

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    Right but now he's admitted that he was simply changing the flavor text and that he's made mistakes before so that argument has more holes than swiss cheese.
     
  8. Eternity Lost

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    He has changed flavours. Not Game Mechanics.

    ---------- Post automerged at 08:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:50 PM ----------

    He doesn't say which actions.
     
  9. Krogan

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    Nothing about it what your trying to say works, the night I vanished there was no body and it said I disappeared. I escaped the Duchess the next day and I was back, you seem to be under the impression he only changed one half of the flavor. In terms of flavor the blood stains even with lack of a body were enough for people to presume me dead so again in terms of flavor it was listed as "24 remain." I wasn't around to be counted under that since the Duchess kidnapped me.
     
  10. Uncle Stojil

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    And John stallings isn't explicitly told when his only night protection is spent? Impossible.

    Just to put it out there, but I hope Riley already knowss that: if you make a mistake, admit it and correct it, don't let us play with that wrong assumption, please.

    @Krogan:

    If Riley doesn't come out and say, "Sorry guys, the "24 players remain" thing was wrong", then you were dead. And since you're back and posting in the thread, you can't be anything but Dracula.

    @Azirapahale

    An umbiguous flavour is one thing, I would even say I like it. Outright untrue thus misleading in a bad way is another thing entirely.
     
  11. draconian139

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    Riley do you consider the number that you give remaining flavor or mechanics?
     
  12. Azira

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    ...What? I was actually defending the fact that you were auctioned, and not dead. Way to keep the super idiotic scum act up by again attacking me for no reason and using bullshit arguements.

    Also, you edited your post. That is not allowed under game rules.
     
  13. Uncle Stojil

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    No. Riley CAN'T listen to what we think and then say "Okay, I'm going to reinforce they're wrong assumption by lying to them".

    And he's posted that in the flavour right after the night. We still had to assume you were dead by that point, obviously.
     
  14. Krogan

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    This is fun, is this the part where you start to loose your temper and fling insults when you realize that people can point out holes in your arguments? Because I've been waiting for that.
     
  15. Uncle Stojil

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    Also, I already checked that after night 1 and Franki's auction and after night 2 and mine, the dead count wasn't including us at all.
     
  16. Azira

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    Sigh, I should've stopped responding to your posts ages ago.

    At any rate, We have bout 5 hours and Krogan is the only lynch vote that seems like it might go through, ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT VOTED. And again, people like Kensington and Lindsey are failing to post at all under layers upon layers of excuses (Lindsey, sooooo scummy.) and not posting at all (Kensington).

    We lynch Krogan to finally verify if he's Dracula or not, and not rely on Riley since he's been very unforthcoming as game host so far.


    Again, night actions;

    Merlin switches Stojil with likely scum from his view
    Forthill (If he's alive) turns Vesvius
    Knights purify Lindsey (If this fails, we kill Vesvius because he's another scum)

    Also Stojil posts who he NK's. I think Kensington is a pretty reasonable target for this, along with Ashaya and Klackerz.
     
  17. draconian139

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    Stojil, yea I'm with you about that roleclaim which is why I hadn't moved my vote off of him. The problem is that its definitely looking like Moridin was right about Krogan which means he's not the red king. This means we should try to find Mavra and I find myself in agreement with Eternity about it probably being a lurker so I'll follow his lead.

    Rescind vote
    Deadline Vote Lynch: Kensington


    ---------- Post automerged at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:09 PM ----------

    I thought of another way to prove whether or not Vesvius gets purified. Aekiel can check if she uses an action on a random night, if she did Forthill is dead and there was no purify.
     
  18. Eternity Lost

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    What was that automerged post about Draconian?

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 PM ----------

    Vesvius can just not use his actions until Aekiel's dead.
     
  19. draconian139

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    Umm its from noone posting between the two posts I made, like just happened to yours. What you said about not doing anything until aekiel is dead is true and I should have thought that through better. Should we just lynch Vesvius regardless of if he was telling the truth then?
     
  20. Eternity Lost

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    Personally I say yes.

    The only possible reason I could think of for him being the Erlking and roleclaiming is if his win conditions change. Riley, do they?

    But if he is another scum then there's lots of reasons. Wanting to be 'confirmed' town. Less suspicion. etc.
     
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