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Investigations into Chicago (Dresden Mafia) Day 1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Speakers

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    What the hell guys? Sneakthief gave us some really valuable information, so let's decide on a lynch already!! What was the point of all of that reasoning earlier in the day if you're all just going to throw it away? This is all too disjointed and not beneficial towards town. Let's narrow down on a scum to lynch, let's lynch klackerz since it seems Krogan may be Dracula. Then Stojil can NK Krogan (who if he's dracula, will then revive after the next night so a couple of days from now? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? )

    Yeah, klackerz is a better option, I think:
    Rescind Vote
    Deadline Lynch Vote: Klackerz


    FOR THE NIGHT:
    ->Forthill protect Vesvius.
    ->Custer/Knights purify Lindsey.
    ->Merlin protect Stojil
    ->Stojil NK Krogan

    I won't be back before night's end so I guess this is my last post for today.
     
  2. Eternity Lost

    Eternity Lost Squib

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    You're more likely than Klackerz to be scum based on the maths.
     
  3. draconian139

    draconian139 DA Member

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    To me it would be strange if the win conditions didn't change. If they don't why not just make a purify kill instead of turning a player into an impotent faction of one that has literally no chance of victory?
     
  4. Eternity Lost

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    And my vote will not be changing before day's end. Off to bed.

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    You're probably right Draconian.
     
  5. Vesvius

    Vesvius High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    This. This here is why I wanted to save the name until I was converted.

    Yet the part I'm most offended by is that someone called me she. Really?
     
  6. Uncle Stojil

    Uncle Stojil Auror

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    If you consider yes as an answer, then his behaviour after roleclaiming doesn't make any sense. Why would he talk about seeing how long he can survive when his plan was to become "human" and win as town? Why not saying it explicitly?

    Either he thinks/knows that his win conditions don't change, and I'd say it's unlikely because I think/hope they do (like it seems for purified Denarians and vampire!Susan), or he simply hadn't thought about that. I believe it's the latter and that makes me think he's not who he says he is.

    Wouldn't he have asked that question to Riley upon being told he was the Erlking? True, he admitted to paying little attention to the game, but... this little?
     
  7. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Okay, where the FUCK is Riley? We've asked him to post more than once. I would like him to personally go over Sneakthief's list, and tell me that it's correct, cuz I really fucking think that he screwed up.
     
  8. draconian139

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    The argument would have taken place tomorrow anyways unless you were just going to hold out on Nicodemus indefinitely. This way lets us know for certain that you are the erlking, I'm still in favor of keeping you alive if we can come up with a way to confirm you were purified.

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    Stojil, I think its the opposite. He does know that his role conditions change which is why he was fine with claiming.
     
  9. Uncle Stojil

    Uncle Stojil Auror

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    I quote my last post:

    Then his behaviour after roleclaiming doesn't make any sense. Why would he talk about seeing how long he can survive when his plan was to become "human" and win as town? Why not saying it explicitly?
     
  10. Lindsey

    Lindsey Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Woah. Okay, I'm seriously trying not to lurk here. I was asleep and then had to work for a friend at her cafe. I feel like so many people here have all the time in the world.

    I have nothing to say about being Nicodemus because you guys would not believe me until I am purified tonight. I've had a really bad morning and have no desire to try to defend myself from people who will never believe me until it's proven.

    All I have to say is, the Erlking would have been an EPIC role to play, probably one of the best in the game. You have a role that can taint as well as kill people and everyone is your enemy. I don't get how anyone COULDN'T have tons of fun with that role, so I'm baffled why he just gave it up almost out of the blue.

    Then again... a quarter of the roles were just given out today.

    I don't want to change my vote until Riley gives us conformation that Krogan was either sold on ebay or revived.

    At this point I just want to lurk because my day has been that bad and I just want to RAGE at everyone. -_-
     
  11. draconian139

    draconian139 DA Member

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    Maybe because he knew that the whole how can we verify debate would then pop up? Either way, debating whether he's lying about his identity seems pointless when Nicodemus and Custer can confirm either way tomorrow.
     
  12. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    You're all fucking idiots.
     
  13. Riley

    Riley Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    Ask me exactly the questions you want answered and I will answer them. If I haven't answered something, it's probably to preserve the integrity of a particular player's abilities and actions.
     
  14. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Alright. Why was Krogan not counted amongst live players on Night 3 and made to seem like he came off an auction (IN THE FLAVOUR TEXT YOU WROTE, AND NOONE ELSE) while franki and Stojil were explicitly said to have been eBayed and were counted amongst live players on Nights 1 and 2, respectively.
     
  15. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Thank you for ignoring my multiple posts asking for you to confirm Sneakthief's results, which has fuck-ups already in the form of Moridin being counted as having not voted on Day 3, and dhulli not being on the list at all.

    Please go over the list carefully, and post the CORRECT results.
     
  16. Riley

    Riley Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    Check your QT please, if the answer I've provided is not sufficient for you then I will post the whole thing here.
     
  17. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Alright. I have read my QT, and these are some of Rileys words (Which I'm sure he will confirm if need be.)

    This boils down to: Krogan is Dracula. We can now go around and use this information to try and root out Mavra, who I think is still alive.

    And seeing as trying to lynch him is useless...

    Rescind Vote

    Deadline Lynch Vote: Kensington


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    Nevermind, we can't infer who Mavra is since they don't know eachother. Herpderp.

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    So what we can do is keep eliminating scum, now that we know Krogans role he's actually not that big a threat to us, Draculas ability only really becomes relevant when there is a small amount of town, which isn't the case and won't be for quite a few days, by that time we should have won the game.
     
  18. Ash

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    Honestly, we have no lack of targets today. Krogan, Kensington, draconian....we all need to get behind one person though.

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    And I think Azira is right, we have bigger fish to fry than Krogan. On that note...

    rescind vote
    Deadline lynch vote: Kensington
     
  19. Fishy Justice

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    Eeeeeh. I wanted Riley to say things but there's no time.

    Vote Deadline Lynch: Kens -I will be fairly active in the final hours, and can change this on a whim. So don't freak out on my account.

    Also Sorry Ash, I'm going to go back over the lists in the case Riley doesn't respond. I'll try to have a revised version within the next hour or so. (so I can reread the thread and double check things)

    I've been trying to add something useful with my information but I think it's pretty well covered at this point. That and admittedly I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to flavor.

    I will say a few things though:

    1. I would suggest looking at Custer. Inconsistencies between him and Jwlk aside, I find it hard to believe a scum wouldn't vote on purpose the first day. So I would assume it's someone who was busy and unable to do so. Jwlk seems most likely to me, though the others may fit that bill.

    2. Yeah, what I said above supports Duke or Jeram, but I think it's probably more likely they were both innocent. Given the numbers, it just seems to me more likely that there is some overlap between the two batch results.

    3. Look at people who did not try to use my results. It won't be conclusive, but I'm more than certain a few scum will have been shut up by that dump.


    Maybe I'm a bit confused here, but only one of Klackerz, Gambit, and Custer can be guilty according to day one.

    Comparing that after:
    1.Vesvius being confirmed now(one way or another)
    2. I would assume Kalas being guilty unless of the six dead we really did hit a ton of scum day two and three.
    3. Things don't look stunning for Dhulli. I don't really believe he's scum, but numbers are numbers.


    My final suspicions, numbers aside, would be Moridin, Krogan, one of the three mentioned, draconian, Azira(maybe), and Kens. Also maybe LochNess.
     
  20. Ash

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    Sneak: don't bother, Riley told me that he would go over it himself, and check for problems. It'll just take a bit of time.

    I refuse to lynch people based on those results, however, until he's posted a revised version, as I do not want to lynch an innocent person.

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    My lynch on Kensington has to do with the fact that I genuinely believe him to be scummy due to his lurking. Hopefully once Riley posts, it will clear some things up, and I'll be able to pour over the results again, with conclusions that don't blatantly clash.
     
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