Shouldn't the Erlking also have gotten a taint?

There are so many different abilities to keep track of. :/

 

Well, maybe he tainted a denarian and they don't wish to speak up because getting purified is something they don't want to risk?
Or maybe he's dead. After all, four people, all with unknown roles, are gone.

 

I have nothing to to say yet as it's 3am in my timezone and I am about to sleep. I will post a more detailed analysis in the morning. I just don't want people thinking I'm lurking around and trying to hide myself.

 

I'm not a Denarian, or any other kind of scum.

I'm feeling really stupid about defending Sacrifice and pressing to lynch Evan, now we know Sacrifice is definately scum. But hey, Evan could have been scum too.

The Erlking should have got a taint aswell, yes, but this taint couldn't have been purged last night (as it was the same night it was tainted). The hunt is then sent out tomorrow night, and is immune from purging.

 

The Erlking can't be killed during the night, remember.

 

Oh, right. And the chance of him being lynched are rather miniscule. Why wouldn't he taint, though?

 

He could have unleashed the Hunt instead of tainting, though who he could have targeted is up for grabs.

 

It could be that he tainted a Denarian, and they don't want to be revealed to the Knights.

It could be that they haven't got on yet.

Or Evan could have been the Erlking. You never know, we could have got lucky.

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Aekiel: He has to taint someone (turn them into a hunt) and then release the tainted player on the target. Therefore he must taint before he hunts.

 

Whereas normally he would hunt the taint.

Boom.

 

:/ So the tainted player either didn't come online yet or is a Denarian. That, or Evan could've been the Erlking.

Did Ashaya or jwlk do anything noticeable before they died?

 

Ohh, I'd completely misread that role. I was under the impression it was a choice on whether to taint first or release the Hunt, but the way it's written states that he has to taint to be able to Hunt. Not sure how I feel about that on a game mechanics level, since it severely limits the Erlking if the Knights were to focus on removing his taints.

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It would effectively mean the Erlking wouldn't be able to do shit during the game, since the Knights would be effectively roleblocking.

 

True, but the knights probably can't continually do so because they have to worry about the Denarians.

 

Hell, I'm so happy right now for being right about Sacrifice.

Aekiel, doesn't Elaines ability work the same as in previous game when all votes where checked versus no-votes not just the ones for lynch target? Because the description is the same.

 

Good point, though there are three Knights. Sparing just one of them to permanently cleanse the Erlking's targets would be a massive boon for us simply because we'd be losing less people over all. Hell, it would even work well if the Erlking tainted a Denarian (the only faction that wouldn't want to be purified of the Erlking's taint), because we'd lose someone, but we'd also learn the identity of the Denarian because it's publicly revealed after the Hunt ends. We'd effectively be using the Erlking as a method of hunting the Denarians down.

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I was under the impression that it worked only on the successful lynch candidate versus the rest as one group.

 

If itt works like guljons says there's actually a way to win the game on day 1 for town, all town agrees to vote for themselves, anyone who disagrees is scum and even if everyone agrees Elaine checks the vote, reveals, and you have the full scumlist.

 

But the knights can only use their powers every other night and two are needed to purify major scum (at least from what I understood from the signups thread). The other has the coins, seductions, Dracula taints, and Erlking taints to worry about. Not to mention, one of them might be roleblocked or dead for all we know.

However, if the Erlking permalock is possible for the knights, that would be great for us.

All these taints and kills give me a headache. >.>

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I think Mallory only sees guilt/innocence from the majority lynch and no votes. Smile?

 

Yeah, it's complicated to think about all the intertwining relationships and counters that balance the game (or at least make a good job of it), and I keep missing key bits of information from the roles list. I'll have to re-read it once I've had some sleep. Night shift and two hours sleep the day before aren't doing much for my critical thinking skills.

 

From the previous game, this is the impression I got:

The vote list isn't divided into:

Voted for lynch target

Voted for other person A

Voted for other person B

Didn't vote


It's divided into:

Voted

Didn't vote

So with your plan, we would discover that all the scum voted, but not who they voted for.

This is going off last game. In one of the votes (either Day 1 or Day 3, don't remember which) I didn't vote for the lynch target, but was included (along with the two others who voted for the same person I did) in the 'voted' category, and Mallory got the info of how many scum voted out of those who voted, regardless of their vote target.

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Nothing says that the vote has to be the one that ends it. I'll wait for Smile to clarify, but I think it's still like I said, that Mallory gets the info based on whoever put in a vote counting as having voted, regardless of who it was for.

 

Okay, if that's how it works then my plan doesn't. Bollocks. Still, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of scum being in the Sacrifice lynch list, since there are multiple scum factions in this game, and all of them want to wipe out the others.

 

I always thought the results only included the people who voted for the majority lynch.

meh, I have no scum targets right now. No one is being suspicious.