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Diablo 3 Discussion

Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Mindless, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. Rym

    Rym Auror

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    The more video footage I see of this game, the more I think it's gonna be terrible.
     
  2. Richard

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    It already IS terrible...since they said there's going to be no singleplayer campaign. So fuck'em.
     
  3. potter

    potter Raptured to Hell

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    I think we'd be judging too quick if we say the game is terrible right from the start. What would make it terrible in my opinion is if a monthly fee is required to play online like WoW. Then that takes out the fun of Diablo.
     
  4. Skykes

    Skykes Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Just thought I'd let you know that another wave of invites was sent out and they might not have emailed you about it. Check your battle.net account and see if the beta was added!
     
  5. Arbiter

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    Diablo 3 was just announced for consoles.
    Sauce.

     
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  6. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Did anyone else read the PC Gamer interview they did with Blizzard about D3? The sheer amount of stupid ideas they mentioned in there as eventually discarding scare the hell out of me. For every 10 they threw out as awesome sound, but didn't want to devote time, like one of the characters riding around on the other's shoulders, you know one retarded one got in.

    It's bad enough they cant seem to make the graphic's worth a damn, both by making it colorful to the point of amusing, and by using shitty textures that look... what 8 years out of date? But by pushing the console development along... man. Just sad, not even waiting for this game anymore like I was after finishing D2
     
  7. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    That's... not exactly a confirmation. Blizzard have been talking about consoles for Diablo III for a long time, it's not exactly a surprise that they'd have a team looking at porting it. I seem to remember them talking about a console version of Starcraft II a couple of years back too. Shit they probably even had a team looking at a console version of World of Warcraft at one point.

    Having a lead designer for a console version doesn't mean it'll ever be released. If they can't get something perfect, for whatever reason, Blizzard are the sort of company to just scrap it and move on, Starcraft: Ghost style.

    (via Kotaku)
     
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  8. Arbiter

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    I just hope the graphics aren't horrible. It would really be a shame if the game looked like original Diablo did, just because they are too lazy to make a decent PC game.
     
  9. ElDee

    ElDee Unspeakable

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    I was going to type out a long reply full of examples and arguments and then decided it wasn't worth the effort. You get one line:

    Graphics don't mean shit.
     
  10. Mage

    Mage Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    I'll agree to an extent, but not entirely true. Good graphics don't make a good game, and bad graphics don't make a bad game. That being said, with all the time and development that has gone into it why shouldn't there be good graphics to it? They don't have to be groundbreaking or anything, but at the same time there's no reason that they shouldn't be improved. I get where you're coming from, I really do. These days it seems to be all about shiny graphics and not enough content, but at the same time I think there's a valid argument to be made that it should have pretty good graphics to go along with the content.
     
  11. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Yes and no. Torchlight looked very old and cartoony, but I had a lot of fun with it. Diablo 2 looked graphically way out of date when it launched, and tbh I probably wouldn't have cared if they hadn't have spent so long making it, while I was waiting with anticipation. If it takes them a decade to make the game, it shouldn't look like something they humped out 8 years prior.

    Gameplay is the most important, but it's rather hard to fuck up, point, click, loot, repeat for hundred of hours. The story is a given, there's never a danger of a Blizzard story sucking. Them deciding to change the art style earlier on was fine with me, but they took inspiration from WoW and went too colorful and cartoony looking from the videos I've seen. Why the hell didn't they just go do a proper version of HellGate but by Blizzard? That'd have been the best game ever made o_O Or hell just give us 2012 best they can do, isometric graphics.

    Toss in their DRM, and the auction house, no thanks. I'll download it, check it out, and hope I'm wrong. Them giving the game away for free if you took part in their WoW promotion also didn't sit well with me either, if the game is as good as it should be, why the fuck do they feel the need to give it away o_O
     
  12. Innomine

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    Heh, Middy, the Diablo 3 giveaway isn't actually directed at Diablo, it's more about Blizzard trying to retain WoW subscribers.

    If by DRM you mean the fact that you need to have a battle.net account to actually play the game? It's definitely one of the least obtrusive methods of DRM i've come across. I'm actually not quite sure how different it is to that of Starcraft II, but SC2 was cracked the day it came out.

    As for the auction house? Can't you just opt out of using the real money auction house? There's an ingame currency one as well I am pretty sure.

    Edit: As for the graphics. They aren't exactly bad looking, but they aren't state of the art either. Pretty much all of Blizzards games are designed to run on quite low end computers. Though I may be mistaking your point, I'm not sure whether your complaining about the quality of the graphics, or the style of the graphics. If it's about the style, then that's just personal preference really.
     
  13. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Yeah front pay a year, and get D3 free. A shiny mount I could see, but to give away a AAA+ title o_O Just seems wrong to me.

    I haven't checked in awhile since I gave up, but isn't it always online, or fuck you you're not playing still?
    http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/01/diablo-3-cannot-be-played-offline/

    Not have net access? Lulz, then the head guys say there's other games for you to play in times when you can't access the net. No seriously.
    Sure you can opt out of it. Unless them including the real money auction house somehow fucked over the players that won't be using it.

    Love Diablo? Unable to constant internet connection? Unable to even HAVE an internet connection? You can't play, because the DRM Blizzard has, not because of piracy they claim, but because of making a fair playing field, and not to fuck up the cash auction house that they take a slice of every item sold, isn't going to let you. Oops.

    I'd tolerate it for a game like Assassin's Creed 2, a top tier game with new gameplay styles, amazing graphics, and just a flat out fucking sick game. Most didn't, and folks got crazy pissed over that game. Diablo doing it isn't going to go over much better either. Hell once of the reasons I loved D2 was I could play it on a crappy computer, and I mean a shhhhhhhheeeeeet computer, single player, when I was poor as hell and couldn't even afford a phone line, much less internet.

    I just hope I'm wrong and it's one of the most epic games ever made. So when it's cracked on release day, I can play it where ever I want without having to deal with their "not because of piracy, it's because we're greedy fucks" DRM. I should go back and change all Blizzard references to Activision-Blizz, b/c the old Blizzard wouldn't have thought of doing crap like that.
     
  14. Krogan

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    Lol I'm one of those people getting it for free so I can't complain too much. I honestly can't say at this point I'd pay for it but I'm going to at least give it a shot since I won't be.
     
  15. Arbiter

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    It's sad to see them putting in all this "no offline" DRM and stuff. Especially considering what happened to Ubisoft when they started putting it in their games.
    It's like we don't actually own the games we buy, we are just paying for the licence to use it.

    They lost it after the merger with Activision. All that is in their heads right now is MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. They don't care about the gamers = gamers don't care about them. I realize they're trying to save all their subs in WoW, what with everyone terminating their subscriptions and moving on to Guild Wars 2 and such.

    Me, I'll be buying Torchlight 2. Much better game, offline mode, mods, LAN play, and what's more important: respect for their customers.
     
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  17. Oz

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    Yeah. And besides all that, DRM never lasts long before it's cracked.
     
  18. Arbiter

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    I'm guessing it's going to be something like this.

    5 minutes after launch - Razor 1911 manages to crack the game.
    10 minutes after launch - Razor 1911 allows players who cracked the game to play online with legal players.
    15 minutes after launch - Razor 1911 successfully develops a new crack that allows 20 year old computers to run the game on all maximum and drives Blizzard bankrupt.
     
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  19. ElDee

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    I guess it depends on how much is done client side. If Battle.net only acts as a login and matchmaking system then single player will be cracked swiftly, followed eventually by some kind of multiplayer support. Blizzard have built up an impressive server infrastructure over the past seven years for WoW though, if Diablo III is tapping in to that to do things like loot generation server side, as they probably should be since part of their reasoning for requiring a Battle.net login is to help reduce cheating, that'll be a lot more difficult to get past.

    Certainly not impossible, but much more difficult.
     
  20. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Hell it's going to be cracked BEFORE launch. They're getting games before they hit shelves nowadays and having them cracked on day 1 is normal. Playing online with legal players won't happen, B.net will stop that. If there's a LAN option for most games you can play a pirate with a legal copy, but all legal copies have to use B.net. Edit: That said, if they have something stupid, like 90% of the game store server side, and your disc is essentially only install files, and cinematics, then it might take a few weeks.


    Don't worry, Blizzard made sure already it was graphic compliant with computers from 10 years ago :awesome
     
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