I checked Jwlk and Sesc. Both of you are in the same faction.

 

Eh, much as I'd like to think jwlk is innocent, there is too much at play here t be certain. We don't know klackerz's faction, we don't know who's giving out those abilities, and if the recipients are somehow connected. Hell, jwlk could even have an ability that shows him as Town, like Dark Lord in DE, thus why he's so adamant on getting checked.
Not saying that's what happened, but it is a possibility. Unless jwlk has an ability that fools checks, both jwlk and klackerz are together now in their scumminess or lack of one.

 

meh, I got the message from KaiDASH That both of them are on the same faction.

I do think jwlk may be a scum and if may have a role which returns innocent.

Anyway let's hear Sesc's plan

 

Trollol That was a stupid derp on my part. Belive it if you want to. I never derp when I am scum. I only derp when I have no idea what is going on.

 

I would also point out that Dhulli used his gun that he got to shoot iLost, the one person who accused/was trying to really push for a vote on jwlk early on, while completely ignoring a fair bit of pressure to shoot jwlk with the gun. I think jwlk is a checks innocent mafia role, which is why he kept asking to be checked, with probably another strong mafia ability which is why dhulli acted swiftly to remove attention from him. I will quote posts later that shed more light on this.

 

I'd say we lynch jwlk first, as him being scum is the main reason klackerz is suspicious.

Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

Eternity, I don't know how to address your suspicions about me when they are based on feelings, so just this: I'm not holding anything back. I try to help town as good as I can, but after the majority of my scum/town list turned out to be really wrong in the last days, I kind of lost faith in it.
(Also, I'm female.)

 

Sesc, while that does make a fair bit of potential sense, it does also rely on the existence of a particular role, when we don't even know which roles exist :?. Of course, it is also a relatively common scum role power in these games.

That said, a little pressure rarely hurt anyone, and since I'll be able to check again in a few hours:
Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

 

Okay, let's go for it.

Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk.

 

She's alive!

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Eh, ok.
Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

 

Yeah, heck there were two... or three(?) in the Dresden games, and in general one in most of the others. So, like I said, I would hardly be surprised, since most of the standard role-types have been represented in some way so far.

 

I don't recall ever asking to be checked, I just said I don't mind since everyone was suspcious of me because one if the candidates HAD to be mafia. I also don't mind dying to prove my innocence, I just hope it won't come back to stab the town. But even if I die and reveal town, doesn't automatically make klackerz town. Lost in thought was very quick to jump on me, when if we lynch klackerz and get his allignment, we can be sure of mine, not the other way around.

What I'm saying is, if we lynch klackerz, and he's scum, then lynch me after if you felt he was lying. If he's town, you know that I'm town.
However, if you lynch me and I'm town, then that doesn't prove anything about klackerz, because smart scum would tell the truth that me and sesc are of the same faction.

Obviously id rather stay alive, even though my role is useless, if I die though, I'd watch lost in thought, klackerz, and dhullis replacement. The only real evidence against me is that people think the box candidate must be scum. To back track, I think vira is scum too. Only comes when there is a lynch target.

Sorry for rambling, so yah if anyone wants to go with my plan of killing klackerz first, if you think were both scum it shouldn't matter, and would give you a guarentee, as opposed to killing me, which you would just gave an assumption

 

Sesc's arguments are pretty compelling, there, and I still come back to by earlier points re: scum in for the box vote.

Unless we shift to klackerz,
Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

 

I think its odd that people think one of the final three HAVE to be scum. Almost everyone put there foot forward. But you'll see, I guess.

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Might as well..
Deadline vote: Klackerz

 

Wow Sesc.

The way I see it is in these few possibilities.

1) Klackerz and jwlk are both scum
2) Klackerz is innocent while jwlk checks as innocent while he really is scum

I don't entertain the possibility that both are innocent because of jwlk pinging high on my scumdar. That, and the fact of what looks to me (quite convincingly) as shared information between Klackerz and jwlk. Could be a QT. Could be some sort of mail.

Mail's unlikely. Why tell another Townie (assuming scenario 2) that another Townie was returning?

Hence I believe both of them are scum.

Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

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Oh, and I apologise for not being able to get internet after school yesterday. Apparently only two lecture halls have internet =.="

 

Why is there no possibility that I am innocent? Lol.

I love how this came out of nowhere, Sesc I could possibly understand, but everyone else was saying how they didn't think I was scum. Well, it doesn't matter, this is my scum list:
Pyracrys
Vira
Lost In Thought
Klackerz

I'm less sure about the last one, but if Klackerz is scum, LiT is for sure

 

There is that slight minute chance, but you are pinging high on my scumdar. I'm going with my scumdar, personally.

Also, klackerz knowing sesc didn't die was the tipping point for me.

Be back in a few hours, RL picking up again.

 

Umm, what? Honestly, that's way more jumping to conclusions than me saying that if you're innocent, klackerz likely is innocent, too. The reason that convinced me you are scum is the fact that klackerz knew Sesc was not dead. So, you probably are both scum; if klackerz is not, you would likely be innocent in my opinion even without the check that would make this a certainity. Same thing the other way round. Actually, I find klackerz more suspicious than you, but:

1) If we lynch klackerz and he is innocent, you are innocent. (at least when there is not a role that checks innocent with these things)
2) If we lynch klackerz and he is scum, you might be both innocent or scum. (though likely scum because of knowing Sesc etc.)
3) If we lynch you and you are innocent, klackerz might both be innocent or scum (though likely innocent)
4) If we lynch you and you are scum, klackerz is scum. (at least when there is not a role that checks innocent with these things)

So there is really no way to be certain. But as you said when competing for the box, your role is unimportant, so I'll just go with you. Additionally, I just hope we get scum this time around, because if we don't, we might lose anyway. So I judged the options on the best case, i.e. we lynch someone and he is scum. But all in all, it does not matter to me who we lynch first - like I said, the main reason is klackerz's slip.

Ok, so I'm going on a trip the next few days and probably won't post for the rest of Day. Hopefully, I will be able to check in at least once before the day ends and change my vote if that is necessary due to whatever.