That might possibly apply to "lesser" bijuu with few tails, but it does not seem to apply to Kyuubi/Kurama atleast.

If you read through the chapters where Minato seals Kyuubi, we see several examples of Kyuubi (who at this point does not have a jinchuuriki) showing intelligence and sentience.

He curses the Fourth Hokage when he is trapped and about to be Shiki Fuujined, and when he sees the "ceremonial throne" thats a part of the sealing process, he not only recognizes it and realises that Minato is planning on sealing him again inside Naruto. He also possesses sufficient intelligence to try and stop the process by killing Naruto. And when that fails, he still has time to curse all humans before he is sealed (presumably for the constant abuse and imprisonment that the bijuu suffer from).

There is also the fact that the First Hokage spoke to Kyuubi when he had no host and obviously expected Kyuubi to understand. And since the First Hokage had mokuton and was said to keep the bijuu as "pets", he presumably knew a lot more about the bijuu than Deidara, and as such he makes a more reliable source.

So either Deidara was totally wrong when it comes to the bijuu lacking intelligence (a distinct possibility, since the Akatsuki would be the ones most likely not to care about the feelings of the bijuu they are hunting)

Or, the stronger bijuu with more tails such as Hachibi and Kyuubi are intelligent and sentient even without a jinchuuriki.

It should also be said that in the recent chapters, Son claimed he had received his name from the Sage of the Six Paths. The way Son mentions S6Ps name, he obviously respected and honored the man. He would presumably not respect the man if he had been instantly sealed by the Sage, so he must have been free at the time. And yet, he understood it when the Sage gave him a name, and he was able to comprehend what it meant.

This also removes the idea that having a jinchuuriki once gives you intelligence, since Son had never had a jin at that point but still possessed intelligence and language and so on.

All in all, I suspect the whole "bijuu need jins to be smart" thing is just Akatsuki propaganda and nothing more. It may also be a lie spread around by the villages to make it easier on themselves to use sentient beings as slaves. If everyone knew that the bijuu are sentient and have emotions and such, there might be more opposition to brutally locking them up in tiny cages and using them as chakra batteries.

 

Eh, not really. You must have missed the "destructive forces of nature" part.

Especially the "destructive".

 

I was walking home, formulating an argument to counter C.J.C's post, to find that Datakim's gone and done it for me. Cool beans.

 

See, that isn't quite right. You're forgetting about the period of time before the villages existed; that's when the Bijuu were revered as ungodly monsters. The idea of creating Jinchuuriki didn't exist until then (excluding the Sage himself) and then Bijuu were turn for popping and tearing shit apart. I'll direct you here for evidence of that.

Basically, somewhere between the time the Rikudou Sennin died and Konoha was formed, the Bijuu kept popping up and killing bitches, resulting in them being considered natural disasters.

...I swear I said this before.

 

We don't know that for certain. The Sage was the first jinchuuriki of the Juubi, and according to Tobi atleast, the technique for sealing bijuu was inherited from him. In other words, the knowledge on how to seal a bijuu into a person was available at the time the sage died, since he left that knowledge behind.

We also know that the Sage had two sons, the older which revered power at all costs. Does it not make potential sense that the older brother might have acquired the instructions on making jinchuuriki from the Sages writings, and started capturing and sealing bijuu into himself and his supporters before the dead body of the Sage had even had time to cool, since power was all the older brother wanted. Especially since we know that a sharingan can mindcontrol a bijuu, so it makes sense that the elder brothers "swirlygan" could do it too, and probably better since it was closer to the original source (rinnegan).

Or to put it simply, the bijuu could have been attacked and enslaved by humans months or even weeks after the Sage died, meaning that their opposition to humans would have been justified even during the pre-village times.

Now this is speculation ofcourse, and there is obviously a good chance that you are correct. However, unless I am mistaken(?), the 3rd databook predates the recent discoveries about bijuu not being the mindless creatures of evil right? It was written before the recent discoveries about Kurama willing to work with Naruto and so on right? If so, saying that they are not complete monsters in that databook would have been a big spoiler. Its possible that the next databook will reveal more. Time will tell I guess.

 

I shall direct you to this:

And during Kurama's stroll by memory lane, the only people he was thinking in regards to his various prison sentences were Madara, Mito, Hashirama, Kushina and Naruto.

 

So what, is Naruto the jinchuuriki of all those bijuu now? Or what the hell just happened?

Also, baby Kurama is lol.

 

... What the fuck?

 

Anyone still want to defend the portrayal of the bijuu in the recent chapters?

 

Apparently, Naruto just freed all the Bijuu from Tobi's control. He did it by talking and generally acting like a doofus. Also, his herping was fortold by the Sage of Six Paths.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Tobi was the Sage of Six Paths?

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@Nemrut: Sure, why not? Chakra, or similar energies, seem to be related to consciousness as aptly demonstrated by chapter 501, the shadow clone technique, and so on. Why wouldn't the Bijuu be sentient beings? They've got enough chakra to blow up the continent, and thus it follows that they are at least as intelligent as the average human. Hell, it's always been this way, as far as I can tell. Gaara was in direct communication with his Bijuu; it had a name and a personality. Granted Shukaku was as bat-shit insane as they come, but that does not allow us to presuppose every bijuu is malevolent- as demonstrated by Killer Bee, and the Eight Tails.

Fanon has portrayed the Tailed Beasts as living storms, evil demons out to bring suffering, weapons, fuck buddies, and even parents. Mostly though, people seem to want to bring the grittiness out in Naruto's setting because it allows them to write a more 'bad ass' Naruto. It keeps with the theme of the story actually: The guy you stab in the back is just as human as you are.

 

Well, the chibi Ichibi was just so cu~te!

 

Ugh. Goddamnit, Kishimoto!

 

That last panel was the most fucking ridiculous shit, completely independent of any other factors. So dumb.

 

The Rikudo is getting hyped up even more.

The panel with chibi-bijuu was amusing.

The nine-tails remembered Naruto's kiss with Sasuke enough to taunt him about it.

Yagura seemed decent, which was suprising as I thought he'd be more mature, as no one seemed to realize he had a Genjutsu on him to kill all the bloodline users, but because of how childlike he is, surely people would've connected the dots on that...

Suprised there wasn't a Bijuu hug.

 

I GOT THE STAKES!

 

Page five. Bottom left pannel. This is a guy? I always thought he was a girl. Mind=Blown.


About this chapter. TROLOLOL

 

u no lyk plushie bijuu?:awesome

 

After the ninja war the bijou shall take on there cute plushie forms and bring peace to the Shinobi World with the help of Naruto's patent Talk No Justsu.

 

Pretty much what I expected. The only way for Naruto to stop Tobi from using the bijuu to win the day is to steal them all for himself, which I think is what just happened, to an extent.

Looks like we'll be getting our Juubi vs. Juubi fight after all.

 

@Howdy
I keep hoping that every time a new chapter comes out it would impress or piss you off enough to inspire you to update you're fics. That is if you haven't given up on writing.