Reading the rules seems like a good suggestion here.

The Asylum only blocks your powers and votes.

Only the Irene every night and the Mayor every other night can put players in the Asylum.

The players can only vote to keep players in there, to kill them or to free them.

 

Even if Fenraelis was scum, do all kills on that night have the same priority? I'd think that it'd be 1) Azira and Zenzao, and then 2) Fishy and mishie (lulz). In which case, the MattSilver role (which is the one that's actually relevant here) couldn't have been inherited. If all four were equal priority, then it's also possible but unlikely.

 

I read the rules, misunderstood them.

Herp, sorry about that.

 

- the Incarceration vote.
This is a majority vote during the day.
This is weighed against Free Votes and Incarceration Votes.
Results in the continued Incarceration of the player voted on. The next day, the player will be freed.

I mean, really. Three lines down from the name...

 

I'm fairly convinced of Stojil's innocence but I've been wrong before. He could just be devious as fuck.

That said, I'm in favour of freeing him.

Regarding Lochness, I think we have a good chance of hitting scum but we should wait for a while and not rush into anything straight away. We've been conservative so far and I'd go so far as to say it at least hindered the Ashaya and her ability to use her Taure.

 

For the sake of the SmileOfTheKill gaining abilities only, the Hermonies' kill comes before the Moridin's. If one of the "coupled deaths" was the Palindrome OTP kill (extremely unlikely), this doesn't apply because she can use it whenever the fuck she wants.

 

I think it's very likely LochNess is scum. Because of this, I too am suspicious of Republic's post. Before, he just came off to me as rashly posting town. I am in favor of putting LochNess is the asylum, mostly out of curiosity. I'm also in favor of freeing Stojil.

 

Even still, the Lutris would be killed "before" the MattSilver, and it's the MattSilver inheritance that would prevent the nightkill.

 

You're right. The only possible thing would be with Zenzao being an OTP with that kind of protection, but it would mean that the Hermonies targeted the OTPs deliberately, which is damn unlikely.

Even still, technically, you can't exclude the SmileOfTheKill also because Fenraellis could have been the Castiel. But yeah. This is very unlikely too.

In short, let's nail LochNess. :awesome

 

Phrasing bro.

Rescind Lynch Vote

Deadline Lynch Vote: Republic

kill the thrall, incarcerate the warlock (Lochness)

I'm guessing, but this is a real Ollie hunch, not flinging slimeballs at a wall.

 

First reserve to read this message and pm me will be replacing LochNess - she is currently unable to post. If she is replaced, 12 hours will be added to Day.

 

With regards to Stojil, I don't think he's scum. Annoying, yes, but not scum. His posts read like a misguided but ultimately right-hearted townie player. If asylum would shut him up I might vote for incarcerate, but apparently asylumed players can still post in the thread, so I vote to free him.

Asylum Free: Uncle Stojil

With regards to the lynch, let's think about this for a bit.

Out of the roles we think are left, LochNess could be:

The Castiel who has realised they are the Castiel. (Town). Will die if lynched again.

KaiBot (not necessarily town, but their survival of the lynch is not indicative of guilt). May or may not survive another lynch, depending on the KaiDASH.

The Vesvius, with the SmileoftheKill still alive. (Anti-town). Will survive a second lynch until the SmileoftheKill dies.

So:

If we lynch her and she dies, it turns out she was town after all.

If we lynch her and she survives, she's scum, but we've wasted a lynch.

So there is no positive outcome to a successful lynch on LochNess. It doesn't make much sense to lynch her.

I guess we could lynch her just for the sake of finding the Vesvius. But there's a 1/3 chance she's the Vesvius compared to 2/3 chance she's town. And on top of that, even if she is the Vesvius, we can't do anything about it without finding the SmileOfTheKill.


THAT SAID

The KaiBot isn't necessarily town. It could be that LochNess is the KaiBot AND some Hermonie role/Vesvius/SmileOfTheKill.

So I guess I should discount the KaiBot stuff from the statistical reckoning, as there's no guarantee they're town. So it's 50:50 whether she's town or the Vesvius.

And if she is town, it would be the Castiel, the most useless role. To metagame for a moment, it's also the Castiel who is most likely to drop out of the game, especially after losing their extra life.

I think we can afford to lose the Castiel, even though it is a pro-town vote. Since we haven't lynched someone to date, votes don't seem to matter much at this stage lol.

So in a complete reversal of my opinion, I think we should lynch LochNess. Either we mislynch the Castiel, or find out who the Vesvius is.

The only uncertainty here is the KaiBot thing. If we lynch and she survives, there will still be some ambiguity: is she the Vesvius, or just some unlucky KaiBot who still has protection? Hopefully the KaiDASH didn't give her protection again last night. I think that's what we should assume. Anyway:

Standard Lynch Vote: LochNess

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Also, why are people thinking LochNess could be the Jon?

No mention of lynch survival.

 

....she didn't survive a lynch. She was NKed.

 

Smile was Judge!Lynched Taure. Lochness survived the Night Phase 2 NK.

 

When I herp, I derp.

 

Okay, here's the thing. Let's disregard the KaiBOT thing, as the KaiBOT could be any role.

LochNess has a 2/3 chance of being scum. BUT if we lynch her, we don't find out. This means that the real Jon could claim Castiel, and say she is the Jon. I really think that throwing her in the asylum is in fact the correct plan of action.

We should lynch Republic, as he could well be her thrall, and he is coming across as scummy anyway.

Rescind vote
Deadline lynch vote: Republic21

To the Irene: please incarcerate LochNess.

 

Asylum Free Vote: Uncle Stojil

I don't really get scum vibes from LochNess, but I'm not (anywhere near) the best mafia player out there, so eh. I say the Irene Asylum her, and we'll see from there.

Ollie bro, this hurts.

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Woah woah, do not lynch me. You do not want me lynched. I understand I can be annoying, but that's no reason lynch. Not unless you want to lose the game.

 

If Nesse posts, consider her to be playing, and my message moot.

 

Deadline Lynch Vote: Republic21

See reasoning in earlier post. You're not getting lynched because you're annoying, you're getting lynched because you're acting scummy as fuck.

Taure's wrong on two points: the Jon could've been the NK target and survived, as has been said, and a standard lynch of Lochness is a bad decision, since there's only 25% chance a random town would be killed and role revealed, and the Castiel is the least powerful now.

I'm leaning towards either further incarcerating or killing Stojil. At the point where he's offered nothing to hint he's a powerful role, or really any argumentation in favor of freeing him; I'm not convinced he's town, but have no strong suspicion he's scum, either. It really only makes sense, when you've gone and committed someone, to then kill if you're strongly convinced, or continue to neutralize if unsure. Hopefully the Irene saw something I didn't in commiting Stojil.

If you wants to say something in your defense, now is the time, else I'm going for continued incarceration.

 

It's tempting to throw a lynch vote on you just for that. >_>

I wouldn't mind lynching Lochness even though it'd suck for her replacement but we could be certain by putting her in the asylum. That said, I think town would have more to gain by lynching her and putting someone else in the nuthouse simply because we could be cut down again by NKs in the time it takes to role reveal. The odds are in our favour by lynching her. It's a risk, yes but sometimes they have to be taken.

Deadline Lynch vote: Lochness

Asylum free vote: Uncle stojil

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I believe Stojil's town. I don't believe Jangel's town. Not one tiny bit.

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The fuck happened with the doublepost?