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Your pet peeves in fanfiction

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Mock Moniker, Jan 31, 2011.

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  1. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Or when he runs while he is home for summer, and gets back all buffed out with muscles and shit...
     
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    Beware the most unholy List...
     
  3. Dark Minion

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    The correct phrase is: "Due to Quidditch he really filled out in all the right places."
     
  4. Selethe

    Selethe normalphobe

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    I don't mind reading about a sexy Harry :rolleyes:
     
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    Now, I can see him getting more fit FOR Quidditch because Oliver is a taskmaster and wants his team in the best shape they can be in, but BECAUSE of Quidditch? Who in the hell would get fit riding a broom? That's like saying that since I go to the movies twice a month I get fit from the drive.
     
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    Man Redshell has really filled out since he started lugging popcorn buckets around, wonder if he's worked up to the XL bucket yet:sherlock:
     
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    You could actually get fit riding a broom, it really depends on how the physics works (or doesn't work). If there's any sort of air resistance, then you'll get a serious workout in a few hours. If there isn't, well, you're still working out some muscles, but probably not the ones most noticeable with a shirt off.
     
  8. Hero of Stupidity

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    sweet drop. motherfucking sweet drop.
     
  9. samkar

    samkar Temporarily Banhammered

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    Playing the obliviate game with Umbridge could make a nice story.
     
  10. wolf550e

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    Brooms don't have physics. They swim in the air, with neutral buoyancy at any chosen altitude with zero air speed. If physics existed in proximity to a broom, calamitous things would occur.

    Just consider the force of the air at speed against the surface area of a rider and compare to a rear spoiler air break on a sports car. Now add insects. For extra fun, calculate the G-load experienced by a pilot in a vehicle traveling at speed V and turning with radius R. Fighter jet pilots in special suits that constrict their blood vessels to keep their blood in their head pass out at 9g. If the rider is actually using his arms to hold on to the broom at speed, he is weightlifting like an Olympic champion.
     
  11. NoxedSalvation

    NoxedSalvation Temporarily Banhammered

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    I hate AUs that start off from a point of divergence that shows the author to be a lazy fuck. If you write an alternate universe fic, invest some time thinking up good reasons for the changes you want to implement! Don't just presuppose that your characters can somehow reason out what happened in canon and take all steps to avoid it! :mad:
     
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    Well, it all depends on how fast they can fly. If it's around 60-80 km/h I don't see much problems with flying that thing.
     
  13. Beonid

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    The Firebolt can accelerate to 150 mph (~240 kph) in ten seconds. I'm guessing that isn't a sustainable speed, but it gives you an idea of the speeds it can reach.
     
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    That metaphor works better when you don't think about the fact there's an actual thing called e-paper, and you probably don't do your fanfiction reading on it (as the vast majority don't).

    I've always thought so, myself. I'm firmly in the middle of the "quidditch muscles" debate. It has to work some muscle groups, clinging to a pole as you zip around through the air at so many miles per hour. You're not just moving in a straight line, there are some sharp turns involved, considering you're avoiding other players; or trying to catch an object that is crazy maneuverable, fast, and prone to making ninety-degree turns; or trying to avoid bludgers...

    Can you stay completely still going around a corner in the passenger seat of a car, even belted into that seat, unless you make an effort? What about on a roller-coaster? Now imagine you're moving like that on a stick that you've just got your legs wrapped around.

    It might not leave you with a very even build (and not to the extent they go on about in those fics), but you'd definitely be working a few muscles.

    If nothing else, riding a broom like a quidditch player must, would probably leave you able to open walnuts with the improved grip of your fingers... and your ass-cheeks.

    You know this how? I mean, if there aren't ANY forces involved here, if no force is imparted upon the rider, how does one even fall off? Granted, such people exist, but you'd have to be a world class klutz to fall off of a (for all intents and purposes) completely stationary object.

    And what about that spell that caused Harry's broom to jerk around? If the broom's own magic is preventing the acceleration and deceleration of gravitational forces from being imparted upon the rider, then an outside magical force causing the broom to jerk shouldn't have affected the rider, as the broom's own magic would still be in place and protecting the rider from the extra Gs. The jinx obviously didn't strip away the broom's enchantments, because it went back to normal after Quirrell was interrupted.

    And if the response to that argument is "lol, JKR's inconsistent" then why not just slap a big, "Author's Prerogative" sticker on the whole situation and move on.

    Aww, you went and applied all that science to magic. You can only do so much of that before the "Hurrr, it's magic!" folks drop by for a visit. You'd think that retort wouldn't come into play, here, since you were only discussing the physical effects on the rider, not the flight of the magical broom, but no... it's always there, lurking.

    Wizards do stupid-dangerous stuff for fun = old news.

    That's sweat, you hero of stupidity, you.
     
  15. Hero of Stupidity

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    I know what sweat is.

    What I was trying to convey is that somebody wrote sweet drops in his fic.
     
  16. Warlocke

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    I've seen too much... :ph34r:

    See, since you didn't just say sweat/sweet confusion, but specifically "sweet drops", it looked like what you were complaining about (as many have) was the presence of anime sweat drops in fan fic.
     
  17. Hero of Stupidity

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    No, you understood it right. I was talking about anime "sweat drops" but somebody wrote it "sweet drops" and used it in fic multiple times. ( I read it for teh lulz )
     
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    @Warlocke: maybe I wasn't clear. I said physics does not apply to brooms because if it did then the forces I wrote about would apply. But we know they don't. Proof by contradiction.

    We know brooms can stay still floating in the air without moving and without moving the air around them: in the flying lesson in PS, they tell the broom to hover and it just does. No movement, no rotor wash, just "anti-gravity".

    You fall off a broom the same way you fall off a horse: you get your center of mass away from the saddle, by reaching too far to grab a snitch or avoid being hit by a bludger. Gravity isn't canceled, it just doesn't apply to the broom itself. You stay on a broom because of gravity the same way you stay in your chair right now. If the chair was magically floating in the air (or just lifted using suspension cables) you would still stay on it. But if you roll over you'd fall.

    A broom can be a workout if it lets you feel some air pressure and requires some force to steer, like a motorcycle. But it's obviously compensated: you only feel a fraction of the forces and it has "power steering" and stuff. Maybe different models have different compensation factors.
     
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    And who amongst the DA could successfully cast obliviate? And then you'd also have to do it on all of Umbridge's little squad too.

    How about instead, when Umbridge busts into the meeting, Harry and the DA ruthlessly murder all of them and hide their bodies in the Room of Requirement. That is basically the only way they could get away with fighting Umbridge and not be expelled - if she hasn't told someone about her raid, that is.
     
  20. Alive and Free

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    Considering the Minister of Magic's waiting in Dumbledore's office I'd say that she told someone.
     
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