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~/* Witchhunt *\~ Game Started!

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Chocolate Pi, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    The names are almost all the same on the app as the forum, the only major change is Gambit is known as Ollie on the app. There are no other real differences.
     
  2. thebrute7

    thebrute7 High Inquisitor

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    I think this is actually a very interesting question. Personally, I wouldn't mind being on the court, but neither do I feel that I would be a great choice to help the town due to my relatively limited experience in mafia-style games. If we take a look at the game:

    Total players: 30
    24 Villagers of which 9 are witches (4Elder:5Junior)
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    6 Holy Roles

    The King (Holy), Queen and Duke are already on the Court +4 players chosen by the King. Which means that the King has 27 players to choose 4 players from out of which there may be up to 9 witches or as few as 7. (4 to 2 active)

    Which means that (assuming a completely random selection) the King has a ~33% chance of getting at least one witch in the Court on any given player choice and a ~15% chance of getting an active Elder (this includes the Queen and Duke). Which means that there is a high chance that there will be at least one witch on the court, with a fair chance of that one being an Elder.

    If an Elder Witch does manage to get onto the court, the members of said Court are going to be among the Witches' first targets, since the King's Court is such a strong advantage for the Town.

    Therefore, it seems to me that the roles of Priest and Bishop are roles that we do not want to see on the Court, because we don't want to chance them being made even more appealing targets to the Witches.

    Did that make sense, or am I just rambling?
     
  3. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    I am going out of town for a bit. I will still be around at least once a day, probably twice, and should be able to continue to play with no issues.

    If that changes I'll let you guys know. But don't expect rapid (i.e. within a few hours) responses, as I'll mostly be checking at night.
     
  4. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    @thebrute7 You're making sense, although you could probably expand that to include all of the Holy Villagers. However it could be useful to have some of them on the court, firstly because it reduces the chance of scum getting on the court, but also because it might allow them to share their information better. So someone like the priest could be even more effective on the court, even if it might shorten their lifespan.
     
  5. Sirion

    Sirion First Year

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    So, I'd like to put myself up for Court. I'm an active player with solid reads, especially towards the later part of the game. I often spend a lot of time trying to figure out wtf is going on in games like this, and it'd be awesome to try to work thought out with the court subgroup.

    It seems like we have plenty of new people, though some of us have played with each other in different places, so it'll be an exciting game. I'll bring knowledge of many of the people who've played on the GOD forums, if the court seems to be lacking that.


    Re: Kai's request to lead a lynch...
    I don't really know exactly how this works, but I guess he just wants us to pick someone and pressure them for a while day 1?

    In that case, working on the general knowledge that Lungs is always scum, especially mod!lungs, Deadline Lynch: Lungs.

    Defy the odds, Lungs! Tell me it ain't so!
     
  6. thebrute7

    thebrute7 High Inquisitor

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    yeah. If the Priest is on the Court, he gains some power, but is a bigger target, so its a trade of sorts. Having the Acolyte or Nun on the Court might be good, because they can keep the Court from using their NK to accidentally kill the Priest/Bishop. The Cupid... same sort of thing I guess.
     
  7. StrikerLee1

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    Hey guys, Sorry for my late posting working on final exams this week. I will be around to read everything at night time but during the day I have to keep focused. I will be more active when finals are over closer to the weekend. Will continue to read whats going on and make my votes as the day draws to an end.
     
  8. coleam

    coleam Death Eater

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    My understanding is that the members of the court are unknown to the general population. You can actively campaign, but ultimately, the King picks his court in private. The witches can, of course, find out the members of the court if one is selected though.

    Or did I misread something?
     
  9. thebrute7

    thebrute7 High Inquisitor

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    Nah, you didn't misread. The thing is that you are likely to have at least one witch in the court, which means the rest of the witches know who is in the court, since Witches share a QT.

    Which means that if the King believes someone might be the Priest or whoever, he has to choose between the possibility of making them a bigger target, and having their input in the Court.
     
  10. TMNTurtwig

    TMNTurtwig Professor

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    I finally figured out that this has started, so I'm posting a hello. It's early and I don't have any reads with substance to go on, but I'm working on them. This is my first mafia game, but I'm going to try not to be too crummy at it. One thing I do know is that I don't want to be on the King's Court. I would probably drag down it's effictiveness and I don't think I could contribute to it well. I'm going to read the roles some more until I post again.
     
  11. Eidolonic

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    @Lungs

    You are the King. Sleb at Queen, and Duke, gun to your head: Pick your 4 court members, and why. Meta reasons are fine, there's little to read from the thread, anyways.

    @Kai

    Awfully interested in getting activity going, and forcing people that want to be in the court into the limelight. I agree entirely, but, it asks the question - what about you? Do you want to be in the court, or are you content to just guide the town around without the extra scrutiny the court provides?

    @BillDor

    You say that you want to be on the court, and you'll be useful to have. Why? What do you bring that anyone else might not? And don't mention your role. Just, no.
     
  12. Fenraellis

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    Mmm, I didn't get a PM about this(not sure if that's a sign of anything?), so I didn't know that the roles were given out and the game had started until just recently.

    Anyway, I wouldn't mind being on The Court, if for no other reason, than that I find these games much more interesting when working in groups. Honestly not sure who I would really want to lynch, if anybody, yet. That said, Eidolonic is being rather out there, which would be my most likely vote, but he has also expressed a desire to have a more robust and actively participating game, and that is certainly something that I can agree with when observing some of the past games.

    ---------- Post automerged at 02:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:55 PM ----------

    Well, that or KaiDASH. No offense, but while you make things happen, you always seem to just bring too much focus of the game onto yourself. Kind of bothersome, but eh...
     
  13. coleam

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    Pretty sure no PMs were sent out for this one since roles were all assigned via Moscone rather than by RNG. I know I didn't get one either.

    For future games, perhaps a group PM just to let everyone know that the game has begun might be a good idea. Either that, or have Moscone send out emails?
     
  14. Bill Door

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    I'm usually able to get a fairly good read on players, from watching these games at least, and I generally have a fairly good bullshit detector which would come in useful when hunting any scum that have sneaked onto the court. While, yes there might be other people who can say the same, I'm going to be able to make my judgements based on what has happened and I won't be distracted by what people have done in previous games that has no relevance on this game.
     
  15. bob99

    bob99 High Inquisitor

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    Look, its the first day, so we basically have no information. It's usually kind of useless to vote to lynch someone unless they say something stupid. That said I have a candidate:

    so I think we should lynch him. He's untrustworthy and doesn't really know how to play. Asking for a role that should go to a holy villager without knowing your own role is stupid.
     
  16. Eidolonic

    Eidolonic Supreme Mugwump

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    @bob99

    I'm perfectly fine with lynching Klackerz unless he can actually convince me he's town, rather than a scum lying about not knowing his role, and wanting to infiltrate the court.

    But I disagree with votes being useless. Even if the intention is not to actually 'kill' someone, a couple votes on a person pressures them into defending themselves, and you can learn an awful lot from both the defense, and who piles on.

    I also disagree that the Court should be restricted to Holy Villagers. There is a high chance of at least one scum on the court, and they will communicate the names of people on the court to their fellow witches. Members of the court will die, and they will die fast. Most holy roles need to remain alive until later in the game to achieve maximum effectiveness.
     
  17. bob99

    bob99 High Inquisitor

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    My mistake, this is the first time I've played this variant online. I was under the impression that Holy villagers included good guys with less interesting roles. I was wrong, so I agree with you that the powerful roles should probably stay off the court.

    Edit: Hey, chocolate pi, it would be cool if you changed the ui a little bit so that I either knew what game I entered, or I could not enter a game which I hadn't joined. It was a little bit confusing to enter another game and see that someone had already died.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2012
  18. coleam

    coleam Death Eater

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    FYI, bob99, editing your posts is a no-no. If you want to add something, just make another post - it will automerge with your last one as long as no one posts in between.
     
  19. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

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    Welp, this seems like as good a place as any to start, so here we go:

    Check: At this point, probably Eidolonic. Mostly because he's definitely one of, if not the most active posters, and I'd like to know whether or not he's just steering us towards the nearest cliff (coughHallowHuntcough).

    Kill:
    Eh. Difficult, but I'd probably have to say either Gambit or Republic. Both have shown to be unreliable/bad in previous mafia games, and that's about all I have to go on at this point.

    Protect:
    Hm... This option is similar to the kill one, so I'll treat it the same way: I'd protect Eidolonic. Mostly because while I'm reflexively suspicious of him, he's still a great asset to have if he's town, what with his abundance of posts and such.

    These options are obviously subject to change, but that's what I've got to work with right now.

    Also, in regards to the King's Court, I think I'll abstain from actively campaigning, for the reasons I stated in the other WitchHunt. Namely, I don't think I'm yet experienced enough to be that great of an accident to the Court. I'll do as best I can if the King chooses me, of course, but that's up to them to decide.

    ---------- Post automerged at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 PM ----------

    Hm. Meant asset. But maybe that's more accurate anyway. :p

    ---------- Post automerged at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 PM ----------

    Hm. Meant asset. But maybe that's more accurate anyway. :p
     
  20. Lungs

    Lungs KT Loser ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    @Eido: Hand on the trigger picks? jwlk, Fen, kai and Sesc.

    3 completely proven players and one of our best up-and-coming people, etc. At least I'll know that if they lurk, they'll have brilliant stuff to tell the Court when they're not lurking (Fen) or just a continued stream of good analysis, etc.

    @Sirion: I TRUSTED YOU. D: But really, lol. But not really. >_>
     
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