I wasn't jumping down your throat, man. Calm down a little. Just disagreeing and going into detail. If I was jumping down your throat I'd have been insulting and nasty and shit.

It wasn't meant to come across with a nasty tone. Slow your roll.

 

That loss ruined my day.

 

Lol. How you can call any day with a 25/1/7 days as 'ruined' is beyond me

 

Because it means no matter how hard you carry, there's still a randumb that can and will fuck it up for you.

 

Example: Heavy

 

On Gragas: I'm hoping his AD bruiser/tank build eventually gets buffed back into viability. He was so much fun to play back when Innervating Locket was still in the game.

 

So why is that Anivia is not so played champ? I personally love her, even if she has the lowest hp in the game. I usually manage ~20/~2/~20 with her. So opinions?

 

Because it's just as easy to fuck over your team as her and she's stupid-easy to kill, if you know what you're doing.

Predictable bird is predictable.

Also, holy fuck. Hecarim has MLP jokes.

 

So. Anyone here pick up Hecarim? I'm trying to decide whether or not I should pick him up now or wait for Varus.

On the one hand, he looks insanely fun to jungle with, which is the one aspect of the game that I need to step up on. On the other, I *love* ranged AD champs, and Varus looks pretty awesome.

Opinions, anyone?

 

I usually use this predictability to fuck them over. Penta kill is awesome. Using the R skill 250-400 magical damage per second is very helpful in teamfight.

 

Hecarim has the skill set to be good, but he needs some QoL changes.

The way I would use him is an Skarner/Alistar hybrid. Alistar style initate using R -> E with Skarner Q spamming.

For max effect of W, you need to trigger it when the heavy damage is flying aorund and you're damaged since it heals off total damage inflicted to all enemy units. That means if your Annie Tibbers the enemy for 500 a pop, you heal 25% of the total inflicted damage without any sort of cap.

CDR is good on him to keep his W and E active often, but he really needs the bulk like mad to fight.

 

30%*

He has some early game issues I think. If your opponent is smart enough not to trade with you for extended autoattack fests, you are a pretty shitty laner. Anyone who has a bit of movement can trade a couple of hits were their burstier spells and then get out and while you can chase, without any CC you can't really make them pay for it. I see wukong/shyv/olaf/ww/jarv/garen/every other top laner more or less trashing him. W isn't any meaningful sustain until its leveled up and you can actually deal damage or are in a teamfight. It's pretty mana heavy for a laner as well, so really using it at all in lane isn't that great.

His ganks are pretty powerful but his jungling seems to be average at best. I wouldn't mind trying out a sword of the occult on him for shits and giggles. Oh, and an AP build. That would be fun.

And Anivia is perfectly viable. She was picked a dozen times in IPL and had a pretty good win ratio. The reason you don't see her more is that she is so dependent on blue buff and has a greater risk for less reward. She's pretty easy to gank compared to the more mobile mids, doesn't have the same burst as other mids, and doesn't have the same hard CC as other mids. Still a great character and she does have the constant slows as well as the clutch icewall, but she is just harder to get good results with compared to other faceroll mages like ryze.

 

She's not easy to use hence rarely seen. She's probably one of the best mages in the game, alongside Ryze, Cassiopeia, and what not, but she has difficulty last hitting and mana issues without blue and her abilities are difficult to use. You should watch SK Ocelote, CLG.eu Froggen, or CLG Bigfatlp play her to get an idea of how to optimize her. In the correct hands, she's one of the best champions in the game.

 

Revised opinion. Hecarim, in general, is fucking useless. He's a niche champ that needs to have a team tailored to him, or massive CC to support his ass. He's squishy as all fuck even with massive defense items.

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Tip for new junglers:

ALWAYS take 1 crit chance mark in place of 1 AD mark. That 1 crit will basically be guaranteed to happen in the jungle due to how crits work, and it will raise your jungle clear speed a LOT more than 1 more point of AD.

 

No, I meant Ionic Spark. If I'd meant Malady, I'd have said Malady.

It's a matter of personal preference. Ghost is better for all-around work (chasing, escaping, etc.), but a well placed Flash can do the job of Ghost better (Like you said). The only reason I can possibly think of to take Ghost over Flash is if you're jungling or are playing an incredibly slow champion, or maybe someone without any gap-closers.

Please tell me this was a joke. Nobody outfarms Anivia in lane phase. Nobody.

 

I think you mean Malady.

 

That's not the part of my post I assumed you were referring to, so, my bad.

 

If you're playing someone who already has a blink/dash, you really don't need another one. Ezreal, Corki, Tristana, Fizz, Katarina, Jax, Riven, Lee Sin... there's plenty of characters who get more benefit out of Ghost than Flash, but players really love the security blanket that Flash provides.

Karthus, Malzahar, Morgana, Vladimir...

Anivia's basic attack animation is not good. She's great once she gets her ultimate and enough mana regeneration to keep using it, but trying to last hit with her is terrible.

 

To be fair, it just means you have to be good at auto attacking and getting last hits with Anivia. Her attack animation, while not the best, is not a problem to any one that's played her a few times. Her long AA range means she can get a lot of last hits without being poked. And then there's the blue buff + ultimate ( although after blue buff nerf it can't be used consecutively). Still, I won't say she's the best farmer, but laning phase is definitely not a weak point of Anivia.