Okay Moridin, thanks for rolerevealing, I'm going to switch to Kalas now.

 

Then the last elder witch must have died to the court

n1: no court kill
n2: mishie (who ashaya checked and found 'not in coven')
n3: lungs
n4: lungs

I think that it's unlikely that lungs was an elder witch for *reasons*.

 

I like the plan even better now, and my point about killing the last Elder Witch (presuming he's still alive) before Eidolonic can use his ability is now reinstated. If we can do that and keep Eido alive long enough to use it, we win. Simple as that. Even if Eido dies we can still hope for a spy to make it through, though that's less certain.

 

Wait, this doesn't make sense. Kalas voted on day 1 to lynch Klackerz instead of Gaebe. The coven has gotten a kill every night, so only elder witches should be on it right now. So if Kalas is a confirmed elder witch why would he vote to lynch a known elder witch when he knew Gaebe was town? (Since you claim Gaebe wasn't a potential jw) Someone is full of crap here.

 

Fair enough. Reading through the thread now, will vote as soon as possible.

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The Klackerz vote barely got off ground, I guess it was Kalas' way of bussing Klackerz (who even then had garnered a fair amount of suspicion) - at that time, Kalas' vote gave Klackerz 6 votes where Geabe was at around 10-11.

 

.. ?

You don't say 'fair enough' to someone who just flat accused you of lying.

 

Could be an instance of scum trying to disassociate themselves with a scum mate when there was a semi-large bandwagon against them. But yeah, it would be wise not to assume that Moridin is telling the truth here. He could easily be scum trying to ingratiate himself to town.

 

So. So.

Let's assume I believe this, for the time being.

Name someone that fits the following criteria!

Called Lutris town at the very start of the thread, in post 12, to be exact.

Is scummy as fuck.

Tunneled hardcore into StrikerLee, just like Kalas.

Fits into a coven really, really well with Kalas/Lutris/Klackerz!

 

I still think we should lynch Kalas today and have the court take care of Gambit.

 

Lynching Gambit instead would dovetail with the Vigilante plan well enough. I don't think Gambit will appreciate being sacrificed for info, but them's the breaks.

If Mori is legit, I'm fine with Gambit or Jwlk.

 

No, let's not. We have an outed Gravedigger and Vigilante, there is a ton of information we can get from lynches.

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Ninja'd. Oh, the irony. Damn you, Aurion.

That was in response to Ashaya.

 

Wait, so you say that you found out that Klackerz was an elder witch, then you noticed that Klackerz said that the town was screwed if I was coven, so you fingered me? Why would an elder witch finger another elder witch or potential jw? The only good play for an elder witch in that situation is if he knew I was town, which an elder witch would know. He just fingered someone who started the lynch train against him. So I see no reason for you to have tried to lynch me.

So in order for you to not be scum, you would have to think that basically creating a link between him and another witch. Then, once you found this out, you would have had to believe that that Klackerz would willingly give up another witch just for spite. Also, Kalas would have had to lynch another elder witch Klackerz, for something that was so derpy, it could easily be explained away later as just an idiotic move.

Sirion changed their lynch vote from Klackerz (5) to Geabe. (10)
Kalas voted to lynch Klackerz. (6)
thebrute7 voted to lynch thebrute7. (1)
thebrute7 changed their lynch vote from thebrute7 (0) to Geabe. (11)

It would have made more since for an elder witch to jump on the bandwagon for Geabe instead of voting for Klackerz, another elder witch. Remember, an elder witch would know that Gaebe would not be a potential jw, and thus a great lynch target for the coven.

One thing that would help you out was if Ash was scum, but she has a partner. You don't. This would make a whole lot more sense if you were a scum!gravedigger just screwing with the town. There would definitely be some bad plays if this is true.

Another thing, I don't want to be accused of whiteknighting, but I never got the impression that Ollie was scum. I think he is town. Scum!Gambit might fit if Morriden is right, but as I said, I am not sure I like this role reveal.

 

Fair enough was to you, i.e. okay, I won't push for a vote on Kalas.

And yeah, Gambit works as a lynch. The connections Eid points out are legit, and I'm all for more information.

Vote Lynch: Gambit

 

Plan!

Step One: We lynch Ollie for being an Elder Witch. This puts the livelist at 19. (15 triggers Bishop)

Step Two: Aekiel sets his Vigilante target as Kalas. At the start of the night, if Ollie triggers the Vigilante, we know that he was town. If all goes well, there are still 19 remaining here.

Step Three: The court kills Kalas, unless the Vigilante triggered. In which case they must hunt for the 4th Elder Witch to go with Kalas/Klackerz/Lutris. Kalas will get a kill off as well, alas. (Come at me, Bro!) This will probably be Ashaya, to prevent her from doing her priesty things on future JW's turned Coven. There will likely be 17 remaining here, with hopefully all Elder Witches dead.

Step Four: Ashaya reports her check result on Moridin, if she's alive. Duh. Moridin reveals the role and alignment of Ollie. We lynch either a possible Junior Witch, or an inactive. I'd be okay with Platypus or LochNess, in all honesty, if we got all 4 Elders down. We are not no lynching, because scum judge could exist. And no, no, no. 16 remaining.

Step Five: JW/Spies join the coven. Court either kills the other inactive, or a JW read. 14 remaining, Bishop power activates. (Come at me, Bros!)

Step Six: The Bishop (or the spies) reveals all the remaining witches, Town wins.

Basically, what I'm saying, is...




Lynch: Gambit

 

The bit about you being dangerous as scum means he's implying you have a power role - and no smart town will lynch a player solely for having a power role. Leaving aside Klackerz's derps, even after his lynching there weren't all that many people going after you, were there?

And I already explained why I think Kalas voted for Klackerz D1.

 

problem with this: we don't find out if aekiel got to perform a vigilante kill until tomorrow morning.

 

Crappy plan for day 1. if you want to do something, use jwlk. I think that would be an acceptable replacement. As I said, I really haven't gotten the impression that Gambit/Ollie is scum.

 

Yeah, at this point it seems a lot smarter to kill someone unconfirmed with the Gravedigger and the Vigilante at our disposal.

Rescind Lynch Vote

Lynch Vote: Gambit

I'll post my predictions for the fourth witch sometime tomorrow. For now sleeeep.

 

You could also take the inverse. No smart elder witch would give up another elder witch with a power role. That was what I was implying.

 

Not true, Kai.

As soon as the day ends and the lynch registers, Moscone will trigger saying 'The Vigilante is taking matters into their own hands tonight.'

The kill won't happen until the end of the night, but the court will know that Vig triggered.