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General League of Legends

Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Yeah, I think they are trying to do that too. Like the Varus champion spotlight, trying to specifically say that he would fit well in midlane, etc.
     
  2. Iztiak

    Iztiak Prisoner DLP Supporter

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    Yup, my last game I persuaded them to invade, with me as Yorick. Got two kills, stole blue, and I proceeded to continually ward their jungle and my teammates followed me to steal probably every single buff, every time it spawned.

    We only got slightly ahead because of that from kills, but their jungler was absolutely worthless the entire game, and we ended up winning.

    Invading works if your team isn't retarded.
     
  3. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I don't know about Varus. What I have seen from him, if he can't get advantage over me from jumping on me from the shadows, then I eat him alive with Anivia. It depends too much on accuracy.
     
  4. Mibu

    Mibu First Year

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  5. Zerg_Lurker

    Zerg_Lurker Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    Would not recommend. Starting with Conflagration, of all things? At least with Sear you could poke frequently at long range to proc the passive on enemies.

    Random comment: Good god I love Janna. Even when playing with two full teams of derps like an Olaf mid who wrecks the melee-engaging mejais building Brand, I disrupted and shielded my Teemo, who gave first blood on a retarded solo invade, and Varus long enough for their right clicks to kill everything.
    I even had a chance to build Heart of Gold into Locket and start on Abyssal Scepter.

    For some reason I derive more satisfaction from winning as a support than as say, an AD carry.
     
  6. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Playing support is awesome when you have 40 assists,and you repeatedly save asses with your shield/heal/voodoo. But also it's harder.
     
  7. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    New Shyvanna and Swain skins.

    Why won't they take my money? I want them to have it but the skins aren't out yet. :(
     
  8. redshell

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    So I just played a game as Riven where I had 16 of our team's like 21 or 22 kills. Literally, I was the only person keeping us in that game, because I was so fed I was even melting their Nautilus.

    I became instagib priority for their team. If I went out into jungle or lane to farm my Bloodthirster to get my stacks back up, invariably, 5 of them would show up and kill me. I was proud of the fact that there were 2 ultis, a silence, 2 stuns, and an exhaust. Just to kill me.

    Everybody else on my team was basically worthless, going somewhere in the range of 2 and 6 AT THE VERY BEST. Our Jungle Yi apparently realized that he was worthless in any role other than meatshield and decided to jerk off in fountain for every teamfight we got. Invariably, I died, right after getting their entire team down to half health or less. You can 4v5 at that point, because all it is is clean-up. Honestly, I wouldn't have cared about the assists, because it would mean my team was doing something.

    Sometimes, I really hate soloqueue.
     
  9. Super Bunny

    Super Bunny Fourth Year

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    Give my kidney to anyone that will teach me Riven (melee in general, I just can't pick them up no matter how hard I try eeek) >.>
     
  10. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    I assume you were jungling? If so, there's a pretty big problem when you have that big of a majority in kills. Sometimes what people don't understand, is that you have to CYCLE kills. You can't just take them all and worry about your KDA ratios. 1 fed champion can never carry a team (unless enemy is dumb). When you are jungling, it is much smarter to feed the kills to the one laning so they can dominate their lane, etc. Of course, it's another thing if you think the kill will get away, but otherwise, learn to share :p
     
  11. justbrowsing

    justbrowsing Seventh Year

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    He said Yi was in the jungle for his team.

    I agree about the cycling kills. Too many people don't understand that its not all about personal stats and that sometimes it is better to let people take the kills, even if you can do it yourself.
     
  12. Cull

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    Conflagration is guaranteed lvl 1 harass. Pillar of Flame only has 5 extra base damage and a 0.05 AP ratio. Conflagration is superior to Pillar of Flame at lvl 1 in straight up laning. If you are going to lvl 1 fight, leveling Pillar of Flame makes more sense for the potential of hitting multiple targets. I understand that Mibu isn't well liked due to his "not-pros who think they are too pro for you" attitude in the general advice thread, but I think he's right or not horribly wrong with Conflagration lvl 1.

    EDIT: The guide is pretty bland and boring though. No new insights, just here's how to play Brand like how everybody and their mother has played him since when he first became popular.
     
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  13. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Yeah, actually, taking Sear at level 1 is probably the most useless. People, even if they don't know what skill you got, unconsciously hide behind minions anyways. Although, personally, I like getting Pillar at level 1 rather than Conflagrations. It's highly dependent on the enemy champion though. If it's the type that plays rather safely in the beginning (like TF who you can bait him to use pick a card, and poke after it ends, or skill shot base champions such as Kennen who can't land full combos yet), some melee ap champs, then Conflagration is the way to go. But otherwise, say you are going against an Ahri or Ryze, Pillar lets you get free pokes in without taking damage. It's not a terribly hard shot to hit, provided you aim for when they last hit. If they dodge it, they lose the gold. If they don't, they take damage so it's a win win situation.
     
  14. redshell

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    Actually, for the most part, like I said, I'd get most of the work done and die and my team wouldn't capitalize.

    Most of my kills came from in-lane, where I was solo top against Nautilus. I ate him alive, but our other lanes just couldn't do a damn thing.

    The rest of my kills came from roaming and finding people who were also roaming, or coming in late to a teamfight. I bought a GA, I have no fucking clue why my team wasn't waiting for me.

    The worst thing about it is that we had a Varus and Ziggs, two champions with insane kill potential and one of whom is broken until he gets nerfed next patch.
     
  15. Wildfeather

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    I don't think Varus is broken. He feels as strong as Cait down bot with proper support, but he really shines in CC heavy teams, even more than Cait does with a lot of peels. The difference is that Varus can ult to CC, and Cait can ult to deal more damage. Ditto with Vayne.

    Varus seems pretty broken in teams that CC chain you, because we normally expect that the AD carry won't have 2 CCs to add to the chain, and a heal reduction.
     
  16. thebrute7

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    Varus' ult is downright frightening if the enemy team has any sort of other aoe lockdown.

    Flash-ult Galio into Varus ult anyone? Had that happen yesterday, combined with a Nunu ult. Our whole team was dead in three seconds. No one except for me could even move, and me only because Irelia with the full effect of her passive, Merc Treads and 21 defense masteries doesn't get CCed for any time at all.

    Honestly, I think the fact that it spreads is a little bit overpowered. His ult combined with any character that can lockdown or hard slow a team for a second or two will allow his ult to spread across a whole team. I think it would be better balanced as a single-target with a low cooldown. That or the spread "area" needs to be decreased.

    Or perhaps people still need to get used to him, and learn not to bunch up, but his ult seems really, really strong at the moment.
     
  17. Fenraellis

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    ...any combination of Galio + 'name other aoe Ult that is otherwise tricky to fully utilize' is a deadly combination. Just sayin'.
    (Galio, into Morgana, Kennen, Sejuani, Amumu, etc, etc, etc...)

    At least Varus's Ult alone doesn't generally do much damage on its own.
     
  18. ShadoWolph

    ShadoWolph First Year DLP Supporter

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    I had a hypothetcal situation about jungling the other day. On one hand, the bot lane is pushed to our outer turret, and one champ is dead while the other has blue-pilled. On the other, our mid has just brought down tower #1, and is trying to get a push in while he has lane control. My question is should I defend our turret against the enemy push, assuming I'm able, or join in on our push, trading tower for tower?
     
  19. tragicmat1

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    I personally would go and kill the people (along with your mid), that's pushing your tower. Because, if the opposite happens, (people from bot lane defends), then you guys would be in a worse off position. It may be different if it was top and bot lane being pushed, but I would generally defend instead. (But you have to use your judgment, will you make it in time anyways? Do you think going to defend will change anything? etc etc.)
     
  20. redshell

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    As tragicmat said, it's all about where you are and what the situation is like. Will you make it to bot-lane in time to save the turret? Does the guy who blue-pilled have tele? Is their mid there/somewhere else/dead?

    All of these questions need to be considered before you make a choice, but, ultimately, you'll need to make that choice rapidly before indecision fucks you over. Generally speaking, supporting bot will be a better idea, but if the turret is a lost cause, I'd go for mid and try to make it a 2 for 1 tower trade.
     
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