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WIP Wand and Shield by Roarian/Morta's Priest - T

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Roarian, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. MisterTabi

    MisterTabi Third Year

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    Well, Harry could always turn up later in Fury's office, taking off his cloak and giving everyone on the Helicarrier a heart attack. Nick Fury coolly then walks in after being informed that 'Harry Callahan' is in his office with only one thing in mind.

    "Get off my desk."
     
  2. TMNTurtwig

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    I suddenly want to see a dresden crossover where the cap uses his shield as a symbol of faith.
     
  3. Rakkety Tam

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    Essentially this and in the comics when Thor hit the shield with his hammer it dented if I recall correctly. So who is to say this particular shield is even the same to begin with?

    The point of my original comment was that there are plenty of legitimate ways to make heroes and villains give Harry a run for his money...so long as you make sure to balance it out an not make said people too strong. But you should treat Harry at the very least on the same level as the other heroes in dealing with regular humans.
     
  4. Warlocke

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    No, it's not. :mrgreen:

    But, it might be possible it's a coincidence.
     
  5. MisterTabi

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    Bet Dresden has mint condition Captain America Cards.

    You know what would be incredibly funny? Assuming Harry has an animagus form, he could reveal himself in Fury's office in said form. Hilarious hijinks ensue.

    This does beg the question though, does Harry have an animagus form here?
     
  6. Roarian

    Roarian High Inquisitor

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    I contend that Harry has enough badassery going on as just a powerful wizard than to nab the few rare abilities he didn't pursue in canon. I don't see any advantage to such a thing that Harry can't replicate anyway with other magic.

    Progress Report : the next chapter is about 50% done and uses a few of the rather brilliant suggestions made by DLP'ers.

    Cheers.

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:19 ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 ----------

    Pretty sure I already fixed that on FFnet. ;)

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:20 ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 ----------

    There's definitely differences in the movie-verse, and I actually use it because it's different; less baggage means a little more freedom in what one can do.

    incidentally, imagining David Hasslehoff's Fury saying most of his lines here or in the movie is hilarious. Try it. ;)
     
  7. MisterTabi

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    I did. Which was why I suggested him finding an animal capable of weaponized adorableness, teleportation, and shooting [magical] lasers out of their eyes/asses/orificeofchoice.

    Hell, imagine what David/Fury would say if he found a monkey, dog, cat, or what have you with half the Helicarrier's marines behind him.
     
  8. Roarian

    Roarian High Inquisitor

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    I saw Nick Fury : Agent of SHIELD just last week for the first time. The Helicarrier design was actually kind of neat, though I prefer the new version since it's suitably ridiculous as well and fits in more with the traditional image I have when 'flying aircraft carrier' comes up. ;)

    Fury... well, that characterization was ridiculously corny from the moment he appeared on screen with that cigar stuck between his teeth. 'o.o
     
  9. True Story

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    Harry v. Thor is necessary! Master of Death v. God of Thunder
     
  10. DrSarcasm

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    As to the Cap's shield debate: The classic shield was made accidentally when the guy who was working on it was asleep, so nobody knows how to recreate it. That, and Vibranium is a metal from another dimension, the same way Asgard is. The Vibranium-steel alloy (or other variations that show up later) is basically the precursor to the True Adamantium in Wolverine's claws--attempts to recreate the recipe produced the Adamantium, a weaker version. It is invulnerable to temperature extremes, penetration, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The only way to damage it is to affect it on the molecular level--high-end Transfiguration, basically. In addition, the Vibranium component is able to store massive amounts of kinetic energy in its molecular bonds, allowing the Cap to take hits from Thor's hammer or Hulk's rage. It was only dented by Thor when he went on a magic berserker rampage that enhanced his strength tenfold, and only slightly dented it.

    (I had never paid much attention to the Cap before the movies, and he had never seemed qualified for leading the Avengers the same way Superman is qualified for leading the Justice League, so I did my research. My apologies for any mistakes, Marvel comics fans)
     
  11. PotterFan

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    My previous post pretty much covered the extent of Vibranium's recorded abilities. Another thing, it's not from some "different dimension", it's from a space rock that landed in Africa. However, you are right in saying that it is the precursor to Adamantium.
     
  12. Roarian

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    Isn't the Black Panther involved somehow with the Vibranium? And it's explosive as fuck in its usual state which is why half the stories that take place around the stuff feature lots of BOOOOOOOOM?
     
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    Yeah. The Black Panther is from Africa. The same place where the only source of Vibranium on earth is, a place called Wakanda. Not a real place btw.
     
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    Pretty cool story so far, Roarian. I really like your Harry, initially careless, then caught up on everything, and now on his way to infiltrate SHIELD. And I'm kinda glad you're Harry on his own path and not mixing him up in every Iron Man adventure.

    Not much comments as most everything I have to say has been said before. Solid writing, decent plot, not much grammar mistakes, etc. This is the first HP/Avengers I've read, and it's impressive.

    Will be looking forward for updates.
     
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    I so want to see that scene with Hulk and a cheering charm.
     
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    This is what I don't understand. I mean sure, the shield might not break, or even graze, for that matter, but what's stopping cap's hands from breaking from the force of the blow? Or, at the very least, being thrown 5 blocks down from a blow which he can't possibly have stood his ground against?
     
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    Fairly sure this was explained in the explanations of Cap's shield they posted that it absorbs/stores kinetic energy. So that in combination with his super strength probably explains it.
     
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    So Cap doesn't even feel the blow, is that it?

    Someone could pull the shield away though, could they not? How is pulling it different than pushing it? Really hard?

    Forgive my ignorance, I don't read Cap comics.
     
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    Eh, neither do I. I was just answering your question about why Cap doesn't get destroyed by the kinetic energy transferring through his shield based on what the others said.

    Sure, someone could pull it I guess? Depends on how strong they are to be able to wrestle it away from him. That doesn't really have anything to do with the shield absorbing kinetic energy, though.
     
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    Basically, the shield acts as an anti-force. If you put energy into it, it puts an equal amount out, making the blow effectively useless. So straight kinetic force doesn't work, but you could pull it out of his hands.

    Hulk smash => II (shield)

    leads to

    Hulk Smash =><=II

    So Captain can shrug off big blows.
     
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